Am 07.01.2013 um 02:15 schrieb Deirdre Straughan: > First: > - Illumos.org, where when you click on dokumentation, you get a "page not > found" - > On what page of illumos.org are you seeing a link to "documentation" ? > > The old RedMine stuff eg > https://www.illumos.org/projects/documentation/wiki/Existing_OpenSolaris_documentation > does need to be cleaned up; as far as I know most or all of it is out of > date. Someone else (Garrett?) needs to make a decision on what is still > useful there. > > > As to your other points: > > You are correct that documentation and content curation for illumos and > family would be a full-time job, and that it is needed (though I don't agree > nor think it likely that material related to each distro should be > centralized). > > At the moment, there is no legal entity which can fund and hire a person to > do this work. When such an entity exists, I would hope that this would be one > of that entity's priorities. > > Keep in mind that the companies you mention as benefiting from illumos > already contribute a great deal to it in the form of code and staff time. > People like Josh Clulow and Robert Mustacchi of Joyent have contributed > hugely to the wiki, in addition to their very busy day jobs writing code that > illumos devs ultimately use. Josh is also now the sole administrator of the > illumos web infrastructure (to which Joyent contributes hosting). > > I am not a dev, but I have contributed a great deal of my working time (and > Joyent's money) to events like http://zfsday.com/ and > http://smartos.org/2012/12/30/dtrace-conf-videos/ - which benefit the whole > community. > > You are also welcome to explore my YouTube channel which contains (as of > today) 542 videos - at least half of which are pertinent to illumos, one way > or another. > > I cannot speak to other companies' contributions, except to say that they > also contribute code - without which, ultimately, we have nothing to work on > or discuss. > > I certainly warmly encourage anyone who can to work on the wiki or any other > form of documentation you like. Let me know if there's anything I can do to > facilitate your work in that regard. > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:35 AM, alka <[email protected]> wrote: > hi all > > have you seen that > > - the newest reference on the OpenIndiana Wiki is OI 151a5 with lots of bugs > instead of 151.a7? > - Illumos.org, where when you click on dokumentation, you get a "page not > found" > - OmniOS, where the wiki even lack basic informations like how to update or > newer infos at all or basic infos for newbies > - SmartOS, with a lot of infos but nearly nothing about the common core or do > something beside cloud. > - Nexentastor.org. Since the dismiss of Linda - nearly no community help - > not at all for Illumos, minimal to NexentaStor itself > > -- Oracle, the Holy Grail for documentation - its on yourself to decide if > they are valid for Solaris 10, 11 Express, 11.0, 11.1 or also valid for > Illumos -more and more NOT !! > > > All the basic infos, core wiki etc should be at Illumos, not at the > distributions side - they cannot do. > Why not pay a common communication manager to build a reference that is valid > for all Illumos based distros - to be a real alternative to Oracle, they go > their own way.? > > Gea > > > illumos-discuss | Archives | Modify Your Subscription > > > -- > > > best regards, > Deirdré Straughan > Community Architect, SmartOS > illumos Community Manager > > > cell 720 371 4107 > illumos-discuss | Archives | Modify Your Subscription
- The link is on the sub-page http://blog.illumos.org/ And yes, you are right, i see a lot of contributions and work on Illumos. Joyent contributes KVM and Delphix contributes feature flags and Nexenta contributes also to improve the base of NexentaStor. Each of them a huge thing - technically. I would not miss all the nice things. But all this contributions are often not done to push a common Illumos alternative to other options but for the companies interests only. This was ok in times of Sun and OpenSolaris when Nexenta becomes big but now the whole Illumos world must compete against BSD, Linux and Windows. -without Sun/Oracle in the back. Code contribution is needed but as important is a common position, documentation, public relation work and contribution to push the Illumos base. >From outside view, nobody cares about Illumos, you see the medium or small >efforts of all the distributions to document mostly the same.. Not to say that it is a pity that there are different packaging mechanism around. That may not hinder if they would share a common repo with same package names- indeed this is not the case: another point for someone to coordinate.. I know its not that easy. But a Illumos world based only on good will and community efforts can hardly be the solution. If I may initiate some sort of thinking "How can we improve the situation" - I would feel ok best regards and a late Happy New Year Gea napp-it.org ------------------------------------------- illumos-discuss Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/182180/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/182180/21175430-2e6923be Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21175430&id_secret=21175430-6a77cda4 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
