Bob Friesenhahn <bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Aug 2016, Udo Grabowski wrote:
>
> > On 27/08/2016 20:16, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:
> >> I must be the only one who still uses tcsh occasionally, especially on
> >> older OS platforms.
> > Nope, it's the login shell for all our users.
> > Nothing beats it as an interactive shell, but
> > in scripts, we always use classical sh, ksh93.
>
> I think that 'zsh' at least matches 'tcsh' for usage as an interactive
> shell. Long ago I was a dedicated 'tcsh' user but then moved to 'zsh'
> and did not find a lack for anything.
What people prefer as shell seems to depend on when people started to use UNIX.
tcsh is a csh descendent, but it added support for a history editor very lately.
csh added aliases, pushd/popd/dirs and job control, but this happened in the
1970 already.
I wrote the first history editor in 1982 and integrated it in 1984 into a shell
that already supported aliases. So I needed to add pushd/popd/dirs and job
control in 1985 and thus never had interest in tcsh.
BTW: before tcsh added it's history editor, I was asked to add my history
editor to tcsh but I was not interested as tcsh is not cleanly written and
there is more than one locatin in the code that reads from the input.
In 2006, I checked the Bourne Shell and since it was easy to add my editor, I
did it.
The reason why I do not use zsh is that it deviates too much from the standard
in it's default behavior.
I would be interested to understand why people these days still use tcsh. Could
you explain?
BTW: ksh still has no parameterizable aliases and misses pushd/popd/dirs, but
the Schily Bourne Sell implements this.
What I still miss in shells that are similar to the Bourne Shell is "limit" as
"ulimit" is not user fiendly.
Jörg
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