Fair - as a matter of fact that's similar to what I tell folks who try running FreeBSD on a laptop only to find no Wi-Fi or Bluetooth support - but servers use EFI boot too. The feature isn't exclusive to workstations and laptops.
Also, I think OI is important as a technical artifact: a Solarish OS with an included DE. OTOH, it's not my daily driver, either, and 99% of my interaction with my OI machine is via SSH. It is what it is. On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:41 PM <garr...@damore.org> wrote: > OmniOS Just Works, and we have also incorporated the Loader project into > RackTop’s illumos distribution. > > > > It shouldn’t be too hard, but it does take a bit of patience and trial and > error to make these sorts of things work. You’ll also need to make sure > your that your BIOS is EFI capable (which shouldn’t be too hard in 2021.) > > > > It sounds like OI could use some volunteerism here. I think the problem > is that most folks – especially those doing commercial work with illumos – > are not using OI. OI’s focus historically has been on desktops / laptops, > and that’s a never-ending battle (the desktop space is under constant churn > thanks to our friends in the Linux community), and keeping up is a large > enough body of work – with out any economic incentive – that the > distribution finds it difficult to find contributors. (Never mind the > constant churn in the desktop/laptop space for hardware – e.g. good luck > finding drivers for NICs, WLAN cards, framebuffers, etc.) > > > > These days I generally do not recommend running an illumos distribution on > a workstation unless you’re a glutton for punishment and willing to spend a > large part of your existence trying to make all the broken stuff work and > settle for the fact that pretty much none of the mainstream applications > are going to be available. > > > > Instead, a much better choice is to run illumos in a server setting (which > can be in a VM on a desktop btw). And if you’re going to do that, there is > no real reason that I would recommend OI over one of the other > distributions such as OmniOSce or SmartOS. > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Reginald Beardsley via illumos-discuss <discuss@lists.illumos.org> > *Sent: *Thursday, March 18, 2021 8:28 PM > *To: *illumos-discuss <discuss@lists.illumos.org> > *Subject: *Re: [discuss] Obstacle to GPT label boot? > > > > I can do this if someone will point me in the right direction. I'm about > to start a bespoke CS course via iPad for the widow and eldest daughter of > a friend from grad school at Austin who was so unspeakably rude as to die > of liver cancer last spring. That will fork into a separate > Arduino based embedded programming course for his 13 year old youngest son > after a few sessions. But I want the 13 year old to understand how EE and > CS connect > > I want to start at 1950's systems so the Arduino is quite relevant at the > start. > > Reg > > On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 10:15:25 PM CDT, Judah Richardson < > judahrichard...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > The problem seems to be lack of manpower/UEFI expertise on the OI dev > side. Which is not a strike against them; honestly the fact that OI boots > at all with that small of a team and minimal (AFAIK) upstream code is > nothing short of miraculous. The project just needs someone who knows UEFI > in the same manner a launch company needs a rocket scientist, despite > whoever else they might have. > > > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:02 PM Jason King <jason.brian.k...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Is it possibly an installer issue with how the main zpool (e.g. rpool) is > created? I don’t think the bootloader in OmniOS (or SmartOS booting off a > zpool) are any different than what’s in OI, so that’s the only thing I can > think of. > > > > > From: Judah Richardson <judahrichard...@gmail.com> > <judahrichard...@gmail.com> > Reply: illumos-discuss <discuss@lists.illumos.org> > <discuss@lists.illumos.org> > Date: March 18, 2021 at 8:18:15 PM > To: illumos-discuss <discuss@lists.illumos.org> > <discuss@lists.illumos.org> > Subject: Re: [discuss] Obstacle to GPT label boot? > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 8:11 PM Hans Rosenfeld < > rosenf...@grumpf.hope-2000.org> wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 12:31:08AM +0000, Reginald Beardsley via > illumos-discuss wrote: > > Would someone please direct me to an explanation of why we can't boot > > from disk >2 TB in 2021? > > Have you tried? What problems did you run into? > > I do believe he was referring to OI specifically. 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