Hi Zack,

I have heard the call for separate lists for the last 4 years. This is not a
new request. I will put forward that the success of this global community is
for the exact reason of NOT doing that.

But let's put that a side for a moment.
Here has been my long time beef with separated discussions ...

*Fragmentation* & *Redundancy*
Is the needs of Mobile that much different than the needs of web? from an
IxD perspective? If we are indeed about Interaction Design, doesn't it
generalize across mediums more significantly than it specializes?

How do we connect among different threads in such a way that doesn't
re-burden the site, and how does that just not lead to a single list again?

It all sounds nice to say separate lists, but when you start modeling it
across different user types, it really begins to fail for more people than
the current model does with specific caveats.

The current web site + RSS model is not fully baked yet. There is a bigger
vision that is being explored and will need time, resources (human &
machine) & money to make happen.

If people want to ONLY follow mobile, then heck, do that. Content can be
tagged "mobile" and anyone who only wants to follow mobile can create an RSS
feed that follows only that tag. For the person who wants everything, it is
completely unaffected.

The issue is how does the tagging occur. I would put out there that our
primary tags are fairly predictable and there is auto-tagging technology out
there that could easily with pretty good success tag our content on the list
pretty well.

Personally, I find the multi/single list aspect of our problems to be the
least significant. To me, how do we have a system that encodes knowledge as
separate from the conversation? How do we get to the nuggets without the "me
toos" and the "flame bait" that gets in the way. If we did this, search and
auto-tagging would be that much more valuable. I'm all for the conversation.
it is an important if not vital part of the community, but only in real
time. It is valueless after that moment of being spoken and heard. It's
value is one of bridging and relating, but not part of the need of knowledge
explicitly.

When it comes to separate lists, the other major need is multi-lingual and
multi-local. How do we learn from each other (1 of the most valuable parts
of this list/community) if we are holding separate conversations, and these
conversations are in different languages? Is there a need for us to have a
code of moderation where people on different local/lingual lists are
responsible for feeding back to global and taking from global? How does
global feed the other direction more actively?

I would say that there are some easy separations:
Announcements (we have that already)
Jobs (we probably should do this, but I have to say that a large number of
people find value in these job postings, and said they wouldn't subscribe to
a separate list for them though.)

Things that are more content/practice/discipline related I have a harder
time with personally.

For the time being though, I suggest that anyone who feels that things
should change and they have a strong vision of what they want to happen
should create 5-10 wireframes that communicate their vision (modeling is
key) and 5 slide deck explaining why their idea is better than what we got
and won't create more problems and has a plan for how to achieve that
vision.

Feedback is great ... initiative gets things done.

-- dave


-- 
David Malouf
http://synapticburn.com/
http://ixda.org/
http://motorola.com/
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