On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Arjun Mehta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I will call you old school.
>
> I totally get what you're getting at. I really do. I like the idea
> that if a noun acts as a hyperlink, it should lead to the actual
> object that it describes.
>
> However, this has always been contextual, and as far as I can see,
> will always be contextual. You're looking for a single object, but
> that can be different things in different contexts.


Um.... a contextual link is a very specific thing.

>
>
> A simple example: on Yahoo, if I click on a category, it will bring
> me to a more detailed search of all things within that category
> (until a certain point of course).


That is not a contextual link, it's a local navigation link, so of course
the implication is that it will send you to a page with all things within
that category.


>
> If within wikipedia though, I click on a hyperlink within an article
> it will go to an article of that object within wikipedia. (check the
> bottom of a wikipedia article however, and you will find hyperlinks
> to out-of-context locations, but they are clearly marked and labelled
> to GIVE them context).


Yes. Contextual links within a wikipedia article take you to an article page
about the noun you just clicked on - but this is different than what the
Post is doing.

The problem was that if the link in the Post article behaved like Wikipedia
- there would not have been a problem - if I was taken to a profile page
about the Hirshorn Museum that had basic info like Website, contact, profile
- as well as -- links to all relevant Post articles about the museum - but
that is not what the link did - it submitted a query, presented results.
Here is the edge case where this is bad: I came across a number of times in
other Post articles where the hyperlink submitted a search for all relavant
articles about the hyperlinked anchor noun - and came up with 0 results. Not
only did I expect it to take me somewhere - don't link to -0- results --
that's just bad.



>
> Naturally, within the wikipedia scenario, we have the context of the
> "Wikipedia Experience". Users using wikipedia expect the hyperlinks
> to do a certain thing because they understand the context they are
> within. People using Yahoo expect the hyperlinks to act a certain way
> because they understand the context they are within.
>
> Hmm I hope I'm being clear here. Basically, what I'm trying to
> express is that within a certain environment, hyperlinks... even
> links in general, do different things. I feel like I could go really
> deep with this.
>
> It all comes down to the nature of the click of a mouse-button. Your
> question "When is a hyperlink NOT?". That's actually a tough
> question I think.
>
> We could limit the scope of context to that within a web-browser or
> even within a web-site. But that does nothing, because we are still
> dealing with mouse-clicks. And mouse-clicks, surely, have always been
> contextual. The only universal thing that is expected from any obvious
> clickable object being clicked on, is that SOMETHING will happen. What
> that is... is a matter of intuition.
>
> And this is where us designers come into play. A primary goal of ours
> is (or should be) to understand what is INTUITIVE. And moreso, make
> the things that are being used, intuitive.
>
> I do agree that the Washington Post and others alike that use a
> similar hyperlinking strategy are a bit off the mark usability wise.
> Is it intuitive?
>
> In fact I think the question should be: "When is a hyperlink NOT
> intuitive?"
>
>
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