I can live w/ that distinction. :) Again, I want to highlight that LinkedIn might very well be a good example depending on your point of view of a Social Networking site with a business model worthy of a valuation.
-- dave On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Will Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > There is a difference between sites that are Social Media Sites, and those > that are Social Networking sites, although some do both. To the degree that > a site encourages basic user generated content, but little else (ratings, > comments, discussions, blog posts, images, video) as opposed to a Social > Networking (connecting, friending, messaging) -- Some sites do some mix of > networking and user generated content - some more than others - some blogs > are really neither. If you can't comment on a post, rate a post, etc - than > although it is user generated content - it's not social, for instance Seth > Godin's personal blog is neither networking nor media because their are no > mechanisms for connection of communication. > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:15 AM, David Malouf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I think we are defining social networks different. Not everything that is >> social is a social network, IMHO. >> I don't see really any networking going on in Amazon, or in no way that is >> really connected. I don't create friends, I can't even say I want to buy >> everything this review buys. I can't make that reviewer a favorite or >> anything like that. Sure PEOPLE are engaged, but the network is not, IMHO. >> >> I don't use eBay enough to really know what is going on there, but it does >> seem again, that it is social, but not networked, IMHO. >> >> As for the "experiment" I was wondering, what features are valuable to the >> END USER, not the business. Often there can be a conflict between the 2. >> Adding monetization could be detrimental to the end-user experience, but >> then again, w/o it the service won't live long, now will it. But just as >> people pretty easily have moved from one IM client to another, and from >> AOL >> to MySpace to Facebook and so on and so forth, the end user is a lot more >> flexible than the business. >> >> Your focus on the business is GREAT and as designers interested in >> "stakeholder centered design" it has to be considered. >> >> -- dave >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Jared Spool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> > On Sep 22, 2008, at 5:34 AM, David Malouf wrote: >> > >> > But Jared, those are businesses that have ADDED social networking >> >> (especially the Amazon case) as a means of adding value to their core >> >> commerce business. >> >> >> > >> > I don't know what "added" means. eBay, from day 1, had their community >> and >> > reputation management system. Amazon, from day 1, had their reviews and >> > ratings. Both of these are core social networking features, albeit >> different >> > than the Can-I-Facebook-You? pickup-line approach. >> > >> > So, your complaint about my bringing up eBay and Amazon is that they >> > started with a viable business model instead of praying one appears to >> them >> > in a burning bush before the investor money runs out? I guess I'm just >> > lacking the faith that FB's mgmt has. >> > >> > But to be honest, as an end user, if FB can last 10 years w/o a >> >> viable business model. I could care less. In 10 years something else >> >> will get my attention and so long as I can keep using FB the way I >> >> have for free, it serves my needs quite well. >> >> >> > >> > So, is that it? FB is just a decade-long experiment to disprove the >> Dunbar >> > number theory? Once it's outlived its usefulness, we just let it plummet >> > back into the atmosphere and burn? >> > >> > I wonder if anyone has let the investors in on the nature of this >> > experiment. >> > >> > :) >> > >> > Jared >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> David Malouf >> http://synapticburn.com/ >> http://ixda.org/ >> http://motorola.com/ >> ________________________________________________________________ >> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! >> To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe >> List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines >> List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help >> > > > > -- > ~ will > > "Where you innovate, how you innovate, > and what you innovate are design problems" > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Will Evans | User Experience Architect > tel: +1.617.281.128 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > aim: semanticwill | gtalk: wkevans4 > twitter: semanticwill | skype: semanticwill > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- David Malouf http://synapticburn.com/ http://ixda.org/ http://motorola.com/ ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help
