"I said 'That I know of'. It's true that I'm bit familiar with
Gaia, but I doubt if they are using that. Please list a single CMS
(preferably not hacked) solution for Flash instead of simply saying
'totally wrong'. About the only thing I've seen that comes close
is http://www.flashxmleditor.com/ , (which seems pretty limited from
their demo) but I'd be happy to learn of something more than that.
"

Why does it matter whether they use it or not? You said they werent
around so far we have talked about two of them.

Then there is

http://www.flashloaded.com/flashcomponents/fcms/
http://flashblocks.com/
http://www.comatool.com/

These are just a few there are many more.

Furthermore since it's all XML it quite easy to hook most CMS
systems up with it. And Gaia is quite a good framework with tons of
big clients who uses it.

"I would challenge any Flash site to get as high on search engine
results as a continuously optimized one in HTML. I'd also like to
see one that can include HTML snippets that make it easy to to SIte
Analytics. As for deeplinking, IMHO, that's a pretty awkward
mechanism in Flash, and hardly one I'd want to rely on for my site
getting the kind of hits I'd want."

You are really missing the point. 

Blitz delivers flash sites among other things for their clients. 

Their clients don't look for flash companies, they are not in the
SEO game neither is most agancies. You are confusing herbalife and
viagra with the agency business. Here referrals and network is king
not SEO.

Furthermore if you actually took the time to look at the source code
you would see that it's pretty well covered with regards to SEO.

Don't take my word for it, investigate it yourself.

"That's the kind of arrogance that I saw with the company I left
(as I made clear). 'We don't need SEO' they said. Fine. I don't
agree with that strategy, but that doesn't make me (once again)
'wrong' because that's a strategic decision with no right or wrong
answer, not a technological one."

Why is that arrogance? Some companies don't need SEO. But if your
argument is don't do flash because of SEO then you are not only
wrong, it's you who are arrogant IMO. There is plenty of opportunity
to do SEO today even with flash sites. You bring up criticism that
have long been solved.

"Again, please point out how you integrate a blog into Flash instead
of just saying 'wrong'"

Depends obviously on what kind of blog you are talking about.

Fantasy Interactive did a blog only in flash at one point.

But why would you do it anyway? Normally you would do you blog in
HTML but that is not a reason not to use Flash.

Look at how blitz do it, it's not just as simple as a flash site.
It's much more than that.

"Even if it could, displaying this site in a tiny window wold be
ridiculous - it's made for a huge screen."

So are websites, that's hardly a problem with flash.

"What's amazing to me is how hostile your tone is. I'm merely
saying that this site, as well as a lot of other sites that use
Flash, are ones that I find flawed. As for as not understanding the
context they work in, I've worked in their industry for 20 years.
Please calm down."

Not hostile, just tired. You arguments are totally ignorant of where
flash actually are today. That is what annoys me, it wasn't meant to
be hostile.

"As for as not understanding the context they work in, I've worked
in their industry for 20 years. "

ehm didn't you just yourself say:

"The length of time either technology has been around is irrelevant,
but a convenient excuse. "

:)




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