On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Brad Knowles wrote:

> On Jan 18, 2011, at 8:29 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote:
>
>> running an application on Amazon EC2 sounds sexy, but if you consider the
>> cost of running an instance all month long the pricing suddenly makes colo
>> and rented servers seem like a great deal (especially if you factor in
>> performance, take a look at the benchmarsk that phoronix did a couple of
>> weeks ago)
>
> I recently interviewed with a small Austin startup that does everything on 
> EC2, using elastic clustering & load balancing, hadoop, etc....  From what 
> I've seen, there is no way in hell that they could run this system on 
> co-located servers at this point, because most of their usage is transient, 
> and the only thing that persists is the database system that is generated.
>
> Yes, the storage itself is expensive, but the ephemeral compute power to 
> create the storage and being able to pay for just the time necessary to 
> quickly spin up a good size hadoop cluster to load the terabytes of data and 
> then let it go again -- that's priceless.

yes, if you really need huge amounts of power for a short time it can be a 
win.

but compare the cost of 2 hours a day of EC2 time vs someone like 
serverbeach. if you really expect to need that much time each month (even 
if continuously), the colo can be cheaper over a month.

> However, in that same vein, it could be useful to discuss the pros and 
> cons of an el-cheapo storage system like the Backblaze box, and compare 
> and contrast that to something like a Sun X4500 "Thumper", and why in 
> some cases it might actually make sense to pay more money for the more 
> expensive hardware and software because it helps you greatly reduce your 
> overall admin overhead and your people costs, thus ultimately reducing 
> the TCO.

yep, and you can even go on from there to the larger storage systems (with 
their replication, snapshots, phone-home servicing, etc), although not 
neccessarily in the same whitepaper.

David Lang
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