> * Bad Guy installs agent on your laptop through malicious link to coupon
for cheese
> * BG gets your password when you log into your laptop
> * BG watches your screen for your soft token to show up on screen (or
launches the soft token app for you).

> * BG uses your token to either Be Evil now, or registers a new token so
they can Be Evil later.


Let's all back down a minute from the technical discussion ...



How likely is the threat you are trying to mitigate?


2-factor authentication is great, but it has limitations, and budget
constraints. Have you factored[sic] in the cost of user training, service
desk visits, and possibilities of DoS against your auth infrastructure?


Back to the technical side of things; if you have data that's important
enough for 2-factor auth, I bet you have ID cards for physical entry into
your premises. Have you considered smart cards? They are both a login
token, and a physical security authentication mechanism.

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> > From: [email protected] [mailto:discuss-
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Bryan Ramirez
> >
> > The symantec VIP solution allows you to download a client for your phone,
> > mac, or PC that displays the one-time portion of your password.
> > My hesitation with the Symantec solution is that it's most convenient to
> > download the client onto the computer you'll be using to access your
> > environment.
>
> How is it possible to run software on a system you haven't logged into yet?
> Isn't that a catch-22?  But I see most of this thread has been discussing
> ssh.  Are you trying to authenticate ssh?  Or the actual laptop login?
>
> On my gmail account, I enabled 2-factor auth, which sends a one-use PIN
> via SMS on every login attempt.  I like this.  So I encourage using a
> smartphone based solution.
>
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