I would say the mentorship program is HUGE. But, again, to my point earlier, 
the mentorship program drives membership to some extent (you have to be a 
member to be a mentor, to my recollection).

I might also say that the support they give the regional conferences is a big 
win, even if the vast majority of the legwork is done by the local folks on the 
ground.

But to be honest, speaking as both a "day 1" member, and as a former board 
member: I cannot think of any really "great accomplishments" of the LOPSA 
national org, other than those two things. There's been a number of website 
redesigns, WAY too much time spent dealing with a lawsuit, and a lot of 
proposals for stuff that might've been cool but died on the vine, but that's 
about it.  Of course, your mileage may vary.

D






On May 14, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Evan Pettrey <[email protected]> wrote:

> Perhaps a good question to ask is: What do LOPSA members feel the most 
> important contributions LOPSA has made to themselves and the industry at 
> large since its inception? (this should possibly be a separate thread of its 
> own)
> 
> If we know what we've done well perhaps we can at least focus on doing more 
> the things that matter vs. wasting time on things people do not care about.
> 
> 
> I'd be particularly interested to know in the greatest accomplishments of 
> LOPSA before the past 3 years or (before the mentorship program started).
> 
> It's all too easy to focus on the negatives, it'd be nice to see what we're 
> doing right as an organization.
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Derek Balling <[email protected]> wrote:
> Essentially, I don't think I'm going to agree with you here, and I'm not sure 
> there's a compromise position to be found, so diametrically opposed am I.
> 
> I think the reality is that depending on member-altruism as a growth 
> methodology is, to me, a fundamentally unsound strategy that nine years have 
> proven to be a failure.  If this organization was going to grow based on 
> altruistic membership, it would've done so by now. But membership numbers 
> have -- if you factor out those folks forced to pay for memberships by going 
> to LOPSA-East or CascadiaIT -- been largely stagnant to the best of my 
> knowledge.
> 
> We are not a political organization where people are paying us money "for 
> what we do for the industry". In part because there's very little agreement 
> amongst members on what we think an organization SHOULD do for the industry, 
> let alone a position they should take in so doing.
> 
> And if we're not in that category of organization, we're going to fall into 
> the other category you describe, the "what does the organization do FOR ME" 
> category.
> 
> And on that front, the answer is "precious little", with folks seemingly 
> hell-bent on keeping it that way.
> 
> D
> 
> 
> 
> On May 14, 2014, at 3:15 PM, craig constantine <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > People ask themselves two questions when considering joining a professional 
> > organization:
> >
> > What can the organization do for me?
> > What does the organization do at large to benefit the profession?
> >
> > LOPSA will grow if it is overwhelmingly awesome in its answer to either of 
> > those questions.
> >
> > It’s in our nature (as people sure, but especially as pragmatic technology 
> > workers), to focus on the first question when we first encounter LOPSA. 
> > Unfortunately, it is very hard for a small organization to muster 
> > overwhelmingly awesome benefits that attract members.
> >
> > Instead, LOPSA should do great things which are available to as many people 
> > as possible. LOPSA should be so awesome at benefitting the profession at 
> > large, that it becomes the de facto professional organization. Then people 
> > will join just so they can say, “I support LOPSA!”
> >
> > LOPSA should make as much as possible of what it does, and provides, free 
> > and accessible.
> >
> > --Craig Constantine, http://constantine.name
> >
> >
> > On May 14, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Derek Balling <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > This still does nothing, then, really, to answer the "Why should I pay 
> > money to join LOPSA?" question which LOPSA boards have been struggling to 
> > answer in a reasonable fashion for nigh on a decade.
> >
> >
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