Do you guys even update your servers or would that just be too intrusive on 
your tried and tested old methodology?





> On 12 Jul 2015, at 22:00, Allan Irving <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Personally, for my startup I don’t use the free service so the comments 
> regarding the free service are irrelevant.
> 
> Ot was just a suggestion. If you want to crap all over me for it, then so be 
> it.
> 
> However, whatever - I’d say Slack’s success speaks for itself. I don’t see 
> how mailing lists are any better than Slack. If you do - then good for you.
> 
> Such a negative vibe / element of rudeness on this mailing list. Safe to say 
> I won’t be renewing my membership as it would appear that easy / archaic 
> solutions are more appealing to the majority here. Most sysadmins move with 
> the times. Slack might not be the solution but many other more advanced 
> solutions are. If you’re so bothered about security, use PGP. As you aren’t, 
> I don’t see how you can talk as such.
> 
> Regardless - I was just putting it out there but your rude and responses have 
> just lost you a member.
> 
> As before - all the best.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12 Jul 2015, at 21:52, Allan Irving <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> We are debating this as an alternative to a mailing list. Don’t get ahead of 
>> yourself. As an alternative, I think it works. However, you can disagree. 
>> Please don’t male assumptions regarding ‘cool kids; or whatever you want to 
>> presume. That really isn’t the case. However, if you can’t see how mailing 
>> lists are more insecure than Slack - then what does that say about your 
>> career?
>> 
>> How about you create what you want regarding x, y and z as opposed to 
>> slating something that DOES perform the function of what this mailing list 
>> is in a better way?
>> 
>> Seeing as you are making assumptions let me I shall assume that you are a 
>> dinosaur that would rather use email over something else. Now, please - you 
>> should know the pitfalls of email. I did not say Slack was x, y or z. I just 
>> see it as a better alternative. 
>> 
>> FWIW: Slack does scale. + if it’s working for corporations, what makes this 
>> mailing list so unique or different that it can’t help it along the way?
>> 
>> Making assumptions never ends well - as you have just evidenced. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12 Jul 2015, at 21:41, Brandon Allbery <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Allan Irving 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> You can stay in the dark ages but some of us are thinking ahead. Given the 
>>> responses, it is clear to me that moving on into the modern century is the 
>>> way forward.
>>> 
>>> Slack is only forward in "coolness", not in security, privacy, or anything 
>>> else important. If we are to move forward, can we have something that is 
>>> actually *forward* instead of just another badly done insecure webapp that 
>>> cool kids think is The Future because it is Shiny and who cares about 
>>> whether it (a) works (b) scales (c) is secure (d) is private?
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> brandon s allbery kf8nh                               sine nomine associates
>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>                            
>>>       [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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>>> http://sinenomine.net <http://sinenomine.net/>
> 

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