Hi All, Start with the TLDR version:
* This is a good gain for our Debian/Ubuntu LTS user base to have 11.4 packages. * The 11.4 codebase can already handle Debian 13 and Ubuntu 26.04 * There's no ongoing engineering effort that would be substantially different. * There's a small amount of CI work to make this happen * Any remaining substantial reasons why this shouldn't happen? Long version: At Guillaume suggestion (below), and is consistent with the State Of MariaDB Survey 2026 (8.5.2 ) the number of LTS release is hard to manage. With Debian 13 offering a single 11.8 release, our users are forced into MariaDB upgrades when they do a distro upgrade. The same thought process will also apply to Ubuntu 26.04, as a LTS release that has MariaDB 11.8 packaged for it. I think offering MariaDB 11.4 for both Debian 13 and Ubuntu 26.04 can be accommodated. The Debian 13[2] EOL is ~2028-08-09 and with LTS[3] becomes 2030-06-30. The EOL for 10.6 MariaDB Server(Community)[1] 2020-05-29 giving users a stable 11.4 base for a few years. Ubuntu's 26.04 EOL is 2031-07-01. Given the request was around LTS Distros, the same argument of supporting earlier versions applies to SUSE and OpenSUSE. But since no-one's asked, and resources are limited, I'm happy to limit to the Debian/Ubuntu for now. I checked with Razvan and our CI infrastructure can handle the one more LTS version release for these two distros. Its mainly these build resources that limit the willingness to accommodate 10.11 as well. Engineering considerations: * I"ve tested the 11.4 codebase and it builds ok on Debian 13 and Ubuntu 26.04 * debian/autobake-deb.sh is consistent between 11.4 and 11.8 WRT these two distros * Ongoing maintenance: Debian 13 has similar tool versioning to RHEL 10 (gcc 15.2.0 vs 14.3.1) which is maintained for MariaDB 10.11, so we aren't accommodating any major differences in compiler versioning, and not extending the 11.4 lifecycle. * Current Debian packaging has mechanisms to prevent downgrades of a distro 11.8 version back to a MariaDB provided 11.4, so we're not corrupting user data. * Technically a 11.8 to 11.4 downgrade can be done[5], however additional packaging work is required to support this, if there's a demand, and I haven't seen a request. * Buildbot CI will need small changes to start building these packages * Buildbot will need some upgrade/downgrade script enhancements to hand ths additional type of testing. (community assistance most welcome to achieve this[6]). [1] Server Maintaince Cycle - https://mariadb.org/about/#maintenance-policy [2] Debian Standard Lifecycle -https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases [3] Debian LTS - https://wiki.debian.org/LTS [4] Ubuntu - https://documentation.ubuntu.com/project/release-team/list-of-releases/#future-releases [5] MariaDB Downgrade - https://mariadb.com/docs/server/server-management/install-and-upgrade-mariadb/downgrading-between-major-versions-of-mariadb [6] Buildbot Scripts - deb-install/deb-upgrade.sh - https://github.com/MariaDB/buildbot/tree/dev/scripts ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Guillaume Lefranc via discuss <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2026 at 00:37 Subject: [MariaDB discuss] Re: MariaDB debian release concern To: MariaDB Discuss <[email protected]> Hi Faustin, Debian 12 is not the current Debian release. Therefore if you install Debian 13, which is the current Debian release, the minimal option is 11.8. 11.4 and 10.11 should also be available for Debian 13. _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
