On 10/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Send Discuss mailing list submissions to > discuss@lists.osgeo.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education (Frans Thamura) > 2. Re: packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education (Jacolin Yves) > 3. Re: Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gained a lot of > attention (Luca Casagrande) > 4. Re: Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gained a lot of > attention (Venkatesh Raghavan) > 5. Re: packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education > (Venkatesh Raghavan) > 6. Re: Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gained a lot of > attention (Jachym Cepicky) > 7. Re: packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education > (Venkatesh Raghavan) > 8. Re: Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gained a lot of > attention (Venkatesh Raghavan) > 9. Re: Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gained a lot of > attention (Luca Casagrande) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:33:19 +0700 > From: "Frans Thamura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in > education > To: "OSGeo Discussions" <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 10/26/07, Gavin Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While Venka is on the topic of packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu, I'd like > > to put a niche request / challenge to the community. > > > > Gavin, > > our experience with Ubuntu training, you can ask Arnulf christi for the > detail > > 1. we just need Ubuntu in client > 2. mirror of ubuntu reposittory.. we here copy the repo to 7 DVD, and > put in the centralized server > 3. start training > > may be can help > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:54:17 +0200 > From: Jacolin Yves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in > education > To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org > Cc: Gavin Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Gaving, > > The Francophone LC try to run such a project but with francophone > documentation, application in french, francophone data, etc. Someone > (french) > is working on a personal liveCD (GeoLive) and I think we will use it. > > Of course other liveCD exists and are great as well: Omniverdi LiveCD, > some > LiveUsb, etc. > > It could be interestinig to get such an official project with the ability > to > change data, documentation and langage, i.e. I18n of the liveCD, easily. > > Nice challenge indeed, and the Francophone LC will be ready to produce > data > and documentation for this liveCD ;) > > Regards, > > Y. > Le Friday 26 October 2007 08:29:52 Gavin Fleming, vous avez écrit: > > While Venka is on the topic of packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu, I'd like > > to put a niche request / challenge to the community. > > > > High schools in South Africa and elsewhere need a FOSS alternative to > > use and teach GIS, which is a compulsory part of the syllabus from this > > year. FOSS GIS at present is too inaccessible. My challenge is to have a > > packaged CD for Ubuntu to launch at FOSS4G2008 in Cape Town. This CD (or > > DVD) would have: > > > > -one-click installation for Linux, Windows or Mac. > > -Integrated software stack so teachers and learners have to launch a > > minimal number of applications > > -Simplified and customised GUIs to lower the entry threshold. > > -for teachers to teach curriculum requirements of GIS > > -for teachers to use GIS to teach geography and other subjects > > -for learners to use for hands-on work > > -Free, integrated global and local data package > > -excellent documentation > > -framework for local contributors to structure and contribute exercises, > > lessons, etc. > > -central website for resources > > -possible advanced options for network deployment, more sophisticated > > users, 'computer studies' learners (i.e. developers), school web map > > services, etc. > > > > Any takers? > > > > > > Gavin > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan > > Sent: 26 October 2007 05:19 AM > > To: OSGeo Discussions > > Cc: Sarawut Ninsawat > > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has > > gaineda lot of attention > > > > Hi Hendra, > > > > We are starting to look into packaging > > OSGeo software stack for Ubuntu using > > the AptonCD packaging tool (http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/). > > > > We are in the process of learning to package > > software for Unbuntu. > > > > If any others are interested in working on this, > > we would be glad to join. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Venka > > > > .. > > > > >> Oops, looks like I've forgotten the urls =] > > >> > > >> Spatially Adjusted (James Fee): > > > > http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/2007/10/22/create-gis-workstation-using > > -ubuntu-and-open-source-gis-software > > > > >> Matt Perry: http://www.perrygeo.net/wordpress/?p=10 > > >> > > >> And: BR-Linux =] > > > > http://br-linux.org/linux/configurando-um-ambiente-de-sistema-de-informa > > cao-geografica-com-o-ubuntu > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > -- > Yves Jacolin > --- > http://softlibre.gloobe.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:56:41 +0200 > From: Luca Casagrande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has > gained a lot of attention > To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > Cc: Sarawut Ninsawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hello everybody. > > What do you think about an Ubuntu repository managed by OSGEO? > > Bye > > Luca > > Il giorno ven, 26/10/2007 alle 13.45 +0900, Venkatesh Raghavan ha > scritto: > > Hi Mateusz, > > > > Mateusz Loskot wrote: > > .. > > > > > > Perhaps, it's well-known already, but there are two maintainers groups > > > working on GIS packages for Debian and Ubuntu: > > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGIS > > > > > > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianGis > > -- > "Chiunque può simpatizzare col dolore di un amico, ma solo un animo > nobile > riesce a simpatizzare col successo di un amico." Oscar Wilde > > Home Page: http://www.ominiverdi.org > Socio GFOSS "Geospatial Free and Open Source Software" http://www.gfoss.it > Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:03:31 +0900 > From: Venkatesh Raghavan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has > gained a lot of attention > To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > Cc: Sarawut Ninsawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Hi Luca, > > Luca Casagrande wrote: > > Hello everybody. > > > > What do you think about an Ubuntu repository managed by OSGEO? > > Great idea. I am all for it. > > Venka > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:10:03 +0900 > From: Venkatesh Raghavan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in > education > To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Frans, > > Frans Thamura wrote: > ... > > Gavin, > > > > our experience with Ubuntu training, you can ask Arnulf christi for > > the detail > > > > 1. we just need Ubuntu in client 2. mirror of ubuntu reposittory.. we > > here copy the repo to 7 DVD, and put in the centralized server 3. > > start training > > That would still require to network access. > In the trainings that we give the particpants > a set of CD will have the OS and OSGeo stack > in them. The idea being that once the trainee > returns home, he can make copies of CD and > make use of the tools even if he/she does not > have access to internet or the bandwidth's are > narrow. Right now we do the packaging on Mandriva > Linux, but are thinking of moving to Unbuntu. > > We prefer to use CD instead of DVD because many > of the particpants do not have access to DVD reader in > their home countries. > > Venka > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:09:09 +0200 > From: Jachym Cepicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has > gained a lot of attention > To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > Cc: Sarawut Ninsawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > hi, > > the idea is nice, however, the organization never makes the packages - > the people always do. > > imho, unless you do not want Ubuntu to became *the* osgeo distribution, > you must not ignore other distributions. > > why should e.g. frankie (the grass debian package maintainer - many > thanks!) work under osgeo head, if he did so till now as official Debian > maintainer? I can not of course speak for him. > > well, just few thoughts of mine > > Jachym > > > Venkatesh Raghavan pÃÅ¡e v Pá 26. 10. 2007 v 17:03 +0900: > > Hi Luca, > > > > Luca Casagrande wrote: > > > Hello everybody. > > > > > > What do you think about an Ubuntu repository managed by OSGEO? > > > > Great idea. I am all for it. > > > > Venka > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > -- > Jachym Cepicky > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > URL: http://les-ejk.cz > GPG: http://www.les-ejk.cz/pgp/jachym_cepicky-gpg.pub > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 189 bytes > Desc: Toto je =?UTF-8?Q?digit=C3=A1ln=C4=9B?= > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_podepsan=E1?= =?UTF-8?Q?_=C4=8D=C3=A1st?= > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_zpr=E1vy?= > Url : > http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/attachments/20071026/fa95a5bc/attachment-0001.bin > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:13:52 +0900 > From: Venkatesh Raghavan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in > education > To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > Cc: 'Fenoy Gerald' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Jacolin Yves wrote: > ... > > The Francophone LC try to run such a project but with francophone > > documentation, application in french, francophone data, etc. Someone > > (french) is working on a personal liveCD (GeoLive) and I think we > > will use it. > > I think it is Gerald Fenoy who is working on Geolive > http://www.djayux.net/geolive/wiki/Downloads > > > Of course other liveCD exists and are great as well: Omniverdi > > LiveCD, some LiveUsb, etc. > > Guess there must be some limitation on how much of > the OSGeo stack we could pack in one LiveCD. I also > read about ways of installing from LiveCD to HDD. > I haven't used LiveCD much for training yet. > > > It could be interestinig to get such an official project with the > > ability to change data, documentation and langage, i.e. I18n of the > > liveCD, easily. > > Heard that the Japanese version of Ominiverdi LiveCD > is expected to be out soon. > > > > > Nice challenge indeed, and the Francophone LC will be ready to > > produce data and documentation for this liveCD ;) > > Sounds good. > > Regards > > Venka > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:26:20 +0900 > From: Venkatesh Raghavan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has > gained a lot of attention > To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Hi Jachym and all, > > Jachym Cepicky wrote: > ... > > the idea is nice, however, the organization never makes the packages - > > the people always do. > > Very true. > > > imho, unless you do not want Ubuntu to became *the* osgeo distribution, > > you must not ignore other distributions. > > True, one must not ignore other distributions. our group hopes to > continue whatever little that we can do on the Mandriva distribution. > > > why should e.g. frankie (the grass debian package maintainer - many > > thanks!) work under osgeo head, > > Why not? my sincere thanks to Frankie too. > > > if he did so till now as official Debian > > maintainer? I can not of course speak for him. > > Can't speak for him either. > > > well, just few thoughts of mine > > Regards > > Venka > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:27:35 +0200 > From: Luca Casagrande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has > gained a lot of attention > To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi Jachym, > > your thoughts are right..before the repository, we need to define *the* > osgeo distribution. > For example, I am working on the Gentoo-GIS repository and this could > also be taken in consideration. > My sentence was referred to the Ubuntu topic, and related to the fact > that right now you are the only one that manage the Ubuntu software > repository and probably an hand would be useful. > > Bye > > Luca > > Il giorno ven, 26/10/2007 alle 11.09 +0200, Jachym Cepicky ha scritto: > > hi, > > > > the idea is nice, however, the organization never makes the packages - > > the people always do. > > > > imho, unless you do not want Ubuntu to became *the* osgeo distribution, > > you must not ignore other distributions. > > > > why should e.g. frankie (the grass debian package maintainer - many > > thanks!) work under osgeo head, if he did so till now as official Debian > > maintainer? I can not of course speak for him. > > > > well, just few thoughts of mine > > > > Jachym > > > > > > Venkatesh Raghavan pÃÅ¡e v Pá 26. 10. 2007 v 17:03 +0900: > > > Hi Luca, > > > > > > Luca Casagrande wrote: > > > > Hello everybody. > > > > > > > > What do you think about an Ubuntu repository managed by OSGEO? > > > > > > Great idea. I am all for it. > > > > > > Venka > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > End of Discuss Digest, Vol 10, Issue 38 > *************************************** >
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