So that's 10GB of data, using tiles, at 100MB memory?  That's good, and maybe 
requiring tiles for larger images is something I could get used to.  What's the 
speed like?
 
We use both the GMLJP2 standard and the GeoTIFF-tag approach.
 
Gosh but I'd to get behind an open source geo-aware JP2 solution.
 
-mpg
 



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        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
François-Olivier Devaux
        Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 1:50 AM
        To: OSGeo Discussions
        Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000
        
        
        Hi Michael,
        
        We made some tests with tiles of 1000*1000 pixels, with 10000 tiles, 
and the memory used is about 112 MB for the encoding and 114 MB for the 
decoding.
        If you don't want to use tiles, I don't think OpenJPEG can beat the 
commercial applications like Kakadu.
        
        What standard do you follow for metadata ? OGC GMLJP2, or do you 
include GeoTIFF information in a JP2 file like Luratech suggested to the JPEG 
committee ?
        
        Cheers,
        
        François
        
        Michael P. Gerlek a écrit : 

                François:
                
                When you say "Mega-Images (-> geo-sized images)", just how big 
are you talking about?
                
                If you are in the 10-100GB range, I/LizardTech would be very 
interested in talking with you about the project, and also about supporting 
some of the geo metadata conventions.  (Especially if you can do GB-sized data 
sets in less than 1GB of RAM without requiring the image be tiled!)  ((Do you 
have any benchmark data you can share?)
                
                -mpg
                
                 
                
                  

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                        [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
                        François-Olivier Devaux
                        Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:47 AM
                        To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
                        Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000
                        
                        Hi,
                        
                        Norman Vine has pointed to me this discussion about 
JPEG 2000, and I 
                        thought it might be interesting to give you a small 
overview on JPEG 
                        2000 and present the OpenJPEG library on which we are 
working.
                        
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                        FIELDS WHERE JPEG 2000 IS USED
                        
                        JPEG 2000 is becoming the reference in image 
compression for 
                        professional applications, where precision and 
flexibility is really 
                        necessary.
                        
                        The most know field using JPEG 2000 is Digital Cinema, 
where 
                        JPEG 2000 
                        has been favored against MPEG2 and H.264. Linked to 
that field, High 
                        Quality Broadcast applications are also turning to JPEG 
2000 
                        because of 
                        its quality and scalability (low resolution versions 
can be extracted 
                        directly from a high resolution sequence without any 
re-encoding, and 
                        JPEG 2000 sequences are encoded in intra which eases 
video editing).
                        
                        More close to your field is Archiving, where we are 
feeling a 
                        trend to 
                        select JPEG 2000 as compression algorithm
                        
http://www.egov.vic.gov.au/index.php?env=-inlink/detail:m1780-
                            

                1-1-8-s-0:l-9669-1-1--
                  

                        Medical imaging applications, where lossless 
compression is a 
                        important 
                        requirement, are also taking full advantage of JPEG 
2000 
                        remote browsing 
                        possibilities (with the JPIP protocol)
                        
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/aware-inc-to-demonstra
                            

                te-groundbreaking-medical-imaging-streaming-solution-at-> 
himss08,290686.shtml
                  

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                        JPEG 2000 FEATURES
                        
                        The JPEG 2000 features that are interesting for 
GeoSpatial 
                        Imagery is of 
                        course the ability to achieve lossless compression, the 
scalability 
                        (lower quality and resolutions as well as spatial areas 
can 
                        be extracted 
                        from a compressed file, without the need of 
decompression the entire 
                        file), the high precision (most codecs can at least 
handle 16 
                        bits per 
                        component, and up to 256 components) and the fact that 
the 
                        core coding 
                        system can be obtained free of charge.
                        JPEG 2000 also has an inherent robustness higher than 
most 
                        compression 
                        schemes (JPEG, ...) and a great protocol to 
interactively remotely 
                        browse images called JPIP.
                        
                        -----
                        OPENJPEG
                        
                        OpenJPEG, is an open-source JPEG 2000 library. It has 
been 
                        very recently 
                        remodeled by the CNES and the french company CS to meet 
the 
                        requirements 
                        of applications using Mega-Images (-> geo-sized 
images). Independent 
                        access to tiles has been improved, in order to increase 
the library 
                        encoding and decoding performances. This new version 
should be made 
                        accessible to users at the beginning of March. We are 
very 
                        happy of the 
                        performances of this new version, and are open to new 
contributions.
                        Regarding other JPEG 2000 open source solutions in your 
                        field, the GDAL 
                        library has a JPEG 2000 module that is based on Jasper, 
which 
                        is a great 
                        library, but has unfortunately not evolved for the last 
years.
                        
                        -------------
                        
                        Cheers,
                        
                        François
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