On Jul 9, 2015 6:42 AM, "Camille Acey" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Having worked on the sales side of a fairly important player in the space, > I can say this is not a trivial exercise. However, if you could give a list > of say the top five to ten players in the space, you might be able to pull > up previous years of revenue info (because a lot of that is on record in > public filings/registrations). From there, you could likely get a ballpark > number. > > I know lots of companies are working around with slide decks that say > things like "Total Size of Geospatial Market" with a big pie chart and a > tiny FOSS slice jumping out but I feel like it's more of a marketing clip > art exercise than a result of actual number crunching. That said, you might > reach out to Black Duck, they do lots of surveys on general open source > stuff. Andrew Ross and Eddie Pickle might also have some ideas. > > Camille > On Jul 9, 2015 5:56 AM, "Cameron Shorter" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Andrea, >> >> Not quite the same question, but an easier metric to measure, is the >> "estimated cost of software to develop", using David Wheeler's method for >> evaluating the cost of Linux to develop >> http://www.dwheeler.com/sloc/redhat71-v1/redhat71sloc.html >> >> You can find OpenHub metrics for OSGeo projects referenced from: >> http://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html >> >> On 9/07/2015 3:53 pm, Andrea Giacomelli wrote: >> >> Hi Brian, and thanks for the inspirational overview. I totally >> agree with it. >> >> But if I go back with this to my colleague (I won't meet him at the cafe >> after close-of-business today because I'm travelling, but tomorrow might >> well be), he will claim that this is too much of a quasi-philosophical >> explanation. >> >> A simple way of getting the number is simply checking the revenue of the >> key companies involved in the business. >> >> The next "quantum leap" in innovation might be round the corner and >> completely change our paradigms for estimating the size of a market, but >> until this happens, if we are assigning a value to it, we are making a bet. >> >> The "third level" you mention is what my colleague calls "ecosystem >> services". Interestingly, their value can be estimated as well (I have >> started to work a few years ago on one of these cases); >> >> but for the time being, I will stick to "level 1", considering the >> thread open for a couple of days, should any other folk wish to drop a line. >> >> Thanks also for the "good travels" in Italy...in fact I am an Italian >> citizen and a resident, but I travel quite a lot up and down "The boot", as >> we call it (today towards the AC/DC gig in Imola...) >> >> Best regards! >> >> Andrea Giacomelli >> http://www.pibinko.org >> >> >> >> 2015-07-08 21:22 GMT+02:00 Brian M Hamlin <[email protected]>: >> >>> Hi Andrea - >>> >>> like so many good questions looking for a simple answer, there is no >>> simple answer.. >>> Let's make a "thought experiment" .. and divide economic acitivity into >>> three different groups.. >>> Each one could be measured in currency, but I wll argue that only one of >>> them makes sense.. >>> >>> * in the first case, the market is like a physical market . someone has >>> eggs to sell, or furniture, or a service like medical service.. >>> a customer pays in currency, and all transactions are recorded >>> (somehow).. the ecomonic value is the sum of all transactions.. >>> >>> * the second is a market like a legal federation of many marketplaces.. >>> things are available from multiple sources, so prices go up and down.. >>> the prices change for a variety of reasons. But, what if someone "gives" >>> something essential, for non-market reasons.. >>> the price may go down.. but what if a machine is invented that make one >>> million times more of a good or service? >>> does the price go down ? what if the machine makes something that was >>> never available before.. is there a price ? >>> >>> * the third is the natural world we live in.. a unique collection of >>> clear air, clean water, things to eat and places to live and >>> make babies.. what is the "price" of clean water ? does it go up or >>> down.. what is the "price" of a rhinocerous or an elephant, >>> that is a living being not in the human market at all .. what if the >>> actions of the market kills or poison things that are not in the >>> market, to make room for things that are in the market.. >>> >>> what if software can be used to understand these relationships outside >>> of any market ? >>> what is the "price" of this software .. >>> >>> So, in the first and most simple case.. you could take the sum of >>> economic activity inside the exchange of currency.. >>> However, on a larger scale, the second and third measures are very >>> important.. I say that the OpenSource Geospatial >>> software worlds are very much in all of those.. so any number you count >>> in the first one will be a poor measure of the >>> others.. >>> >>> good travels in Italy >>> Brian M Hamlin >>> >>> -- >>> Brian M Hamlin >>> OSGeo California Chapter >>> blog.light42.com >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing >> [email protected]http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> >> -- >> Cameron Shorter, >> Software and Data Solutions Manager >> LISAsoft >> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, >> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009 >> >> P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >
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