Hi Jeroen,
Thanks for your constructive message. Ian was very constructive also.
Maybe I spend too much time coding and I miss a few emails. Did Jeff
resign? What have we done to upset him so much?
Regards,
Jorge Gustavo
Às 13:29 de 16-12-2015, Jeroen Ticheler escreveu:
Thanks Ian for this email! I fully support what you are writing. It is
very much time to stop the negative sentiments around LocationTech,
FOSS4G conference offers that had LocationTech as a partner and so
forth. Constructive collaboration is all we need within OSGeo AND with
others in the (geo-)community.
I’ve heard negative sentiments about the FOSS4G 2017 selection process.
As a member of the Conference Committee I would like to state here that
I am convinced the LocationTech issue was not as decisive for most
members as people outside the committee seem to think. It was an aspect
discussed thoroughly, as were other aspects of the proposals.
I hope the Face to Face meeting end of January by the OSGeo board hosted
in our GeoCat office will be constructive and positive from all angles.
But at this stage I also call upon the OSGeo Board to come forward with
a statement that helps to unify the OSGeo community and give directions.
There seems to be a vacuum in the leadership right now with Jeff’s
sudden resignation that should be filled as soon as possible.
Greetings,
Jeroen
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On 16 dec. 2015, at 12:29, Ian Edwards <iedwards....@gmail.com
<mailto:iedwards....@gmail.com>> wrote:
/"there seems to be a fairly strident Location Tech bashing going on"/
This negative "bashing" of other organisations has to completely stop
because it is having a massive negative impact on OSGeo.
We've recently lost a respected former board member (who has resigned
his charter member status) and the OSGeo president, both in relation
to how we've conducted ourselves in relation to other organisations in
the community. These internal losses are not due to there being other
organisations in the geospatial world, nor how they are acting - but
instead our losses are due to how we ourselves are thinking and behaving.
OSGeo should positively support all elements of the geospatial
community including users, developers and also other organisations to
the fullest and best of our ability. By doing this we become stronger
(instead of weaker) and will remain useful, relevant and of interest
to the community who will continue to invest their energy and efforts
with us and recognise our unique value and position.
In relation to LocationTech - similar divisions exist across the
entire Open Source world (take a look at LibreOffice and OpenOffice,
or MariaDB and MySQL). The broard "FOSS4G" community (encompassing
both OSGeo and LocationTech) is not alone in facing this, and my hope
is that OSGeo can once again be a beacon to the rest of the open
source world and show how best to embrace these differences,
understand the strengths and weakness in both camps, and work together
for the positive benefit of our diverse community.
--
Ian Edwards
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Puneet Kishor <punk.k...@gmail.com
<mailto:punk.k...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Pat Tressel <ptres...@myuw.net
<mailto:ptres...@myuw.net>> wrote:
>
> If you want to point at a company as being the Evil Empire these days, you'd be
more accurate pointing at Apple (cancelling licenses for Mac clones, suicides at Foxconn,
restrictions on getting apps on iTunes, removing fitness tracker products from their stores
because they might compete with the Apple Watch, etc. -- do a search for "apple anti
competitive practices")
You were doing fine until above. The rest of your post is indeed
very relevant and useful and argues correctly for sanity instead
of knee-jerk accusations (until the above assertions, of course).
The point is, there seems to be a fairly strident Location Tech
bashing going on, and it is getting to be tiring. Let's stick to
keeping OSGeo a fun, useful champion of free and open geospatial
without becoming anti-anything-free, partisan and possibly irrelevant.
--
Puneet Kishor
Just Another Creative Commoner
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