Dear Gert, deal all, after a few days of discussion I would like to sum up some considerations to re-focus to subject of my first e-mail and that in my opinion should led OSGeo foundation to at least one or two argument for discussion.
1- Some FOSS4G events made use of "aggressive" marketing strategies using mailing lists where the users didn't explicitly agree in being notified. 2- There are laws on privacy protection which are different for different countries/region (this is explained for example at this resource, but I'm not a loyer: http://www.lsoft.com/resources/optinlaws.asp ) 3- OSGeo act globally and should be respectful as much as possible of all the existing rules 4- FOSS4G is the OSGeo's label of their Free and Open Source Software For Geospatial conferences Said that each person or organization is responsible for its acts (and is free to behave as he/she/it prefer), I would like that OSGeo - and FOSS4G that is with no doubt recognized as an OSGeo event - act in respect of a well defined privacy protection policy with is as much protective of privacy as possible. Example of Privacy Policy can be found for example in: - Apache foundation (http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html ) - Eclipse foundation (https://eclipse.org/legal/privacy.php) - Debian (http://www.debianit.com/privacy-policy/) - Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/privacy-policy/) - OpenStack (https://www.openstack.org/privacy/) >From a short reading all of them seems state that they do not pass information to third parties and do not use these information for sending newsletter unless explicitly agreed. So, if I raised you attention to this hot topic and in the future people will be more sensitive and respectful of privacy when they act in the name of FOSS4G or OSGeo I'm 1000% happy and accept any blame on me. Best regard, Maxi 2015-12-15 23:38 GMT+01:00 Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl < [email protected]>: > First: I took the opportunity to change the subject of this thread to a > less shouting version (CAPS LOCK and spam live side-by-side on my > email-irritation-scale) > > > > > > Second: Funny to see how the use of two different channels (mailing list > vs. MailChimp) kind of reflect the different approaches to reach the -more > of less- same goal. > > Any expanding organisation / movement / community comes to a point where > the classical channels (like a mailing list) reach their limits, > > and "new" marketing (yuch! marketing==ugly & bad!) channels & methods may > help to stretch beyond borders. Which comes at a cost (as Maxi tries to > tell, I guess). > > > > Food for thought for the Board face2face meeting in January (and for the > entire community) to determine > > - what our goals are > > - what our values are > > - and how these two compare to each other. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Gert-Jan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Van:* Discuss [mailto:[email protected]] *Namens *Rob > Emanuele > *Verzonden:* dinsdag 15 december 2015 21:51 > *Aan:* David Bianco > *CC:* OSGeo Discussions > *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - SOMEONE IS WATCHING YOU :-o > > > > Hey David, > > > > The emails on the mailing list were cultivated by past FOSS4G NA > attendees, people opting in in other ways, and from lists that were given > by members of this and last year's committee. If we're spamming people who > didn't opt in, it is not intentional and apologies for the spam (the world > certainly doesn't need more spam). We'll take a look at the list moving > forward to try to prevent from sending emails to anyone who didn't opt in. > > > > Thanks, > > Rob > > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:48 PM, David Bianco <[email protected]> wrote: > > I believe MailChimp has policies against adding emails to your list > without a user's authorization. > > > > http://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/ > > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015, at 10:16, Rob Emanuele wrote: > > Thanks for pointing out that it wasn't yet posted to OSGeo-Discuss, I just > posted it. > > There's a one-click unsubscribe button from that mailing list, sorry for > the spam! > > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Massimiliano Cannata < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Just a funny note... > > > > Nice to see that LocationTech has a FOSS4G email (!!!! WOW!!!!!) > > > > and..... > > that all the link on the received e-mail are connected with my user_id (I > have one????? Yes) > > > > and.... > > that they are tracked (!!! without inform me !!!) > > > > and... > > that I have been added to a list that i'm not subscribed.... ( > http://mailchimp.com/about/mcsv/) > > > > > > But... > > Where did they get my e-mail from? > > why thy didn't simply post the news to the discussion-osgeo list? > > what do they want to track? > > > > > > > > *If you want to see the FOSS4G-NA without been traced here is the > link https://2016.foss4g-na.org/ <https://2016.foss4g-na.org/>* > > > > > > #SPAM #NOT-SO-FAIR #LIKE-MICROSOFT-THAT-SPY-ME #SCARY > > > > Best, > > Maxi > > > > -- > > *Massimiliano Cannata* > > Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica > > Responsabile settore Geomatica > > > > Istituto scienze della Terra > > > > Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design > > Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana > > Campus Trevano, CH - 6952 Canobbio > > > > Tel. +41 (0)58 666 62 14 > > Fax +41 (0)58 666 62 09 > > [email protected] > > *www.supsi.ch/ist <http://www.supsi.ch/ist>* > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > *_______________________________________________* > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > -- *Massimiliano Cannata* Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica Responsabile settore Geomatica Istituto scienze della Terra Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana Campus Trevano, CH - 6952 Canobbio Tel. +41 (0)58 666 62 14 Fax +41 (0)58 666 62 09 [email protected] *www.supsi.ch/ist <http://www.supsi.ch/ist>*
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