Cameron, I think you misunderstood the aim of my comment. I am not talking about human rights as such. (Unless they are threatened, of course)
I am addressing the need to guard and promote our inclusivity. If we want to grow and develop as a community we need to take any past/present/future concern about it seriously. That is an integral part of our marketing and communications effort: avoid wrong perceptions and manage our public image where/when possible. Whether such perceptions address the nature of our code, our projects, our members, our organisation and its policies or our activities. Hope this clarifies, cheers, Marc Vloemans > Op 30 mei 2016 om 23:28 heeft Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com> het > volgende geschreven: > > All, > > While I'm hugely in favour of mutual respect, and I personally co-authored > the OSGeo Code-Of-Conduct, I feel that OSGeo shouldn't aim to be a forum for > human rights. (There are other places for this). > Our primary focus should be on supporting the creation of great OSGeo code, > and supporting the communities doing this. > > Having a Code-Of-Conduct in place is a small part of supporting a community, > and we should refer to it in cases where conversations or interactions > deviate from good behavior, but I'm hopeful that we can leave it at that, and > focus our time on our core code writing passions. > > Warm regards, Cameron >> On 30/05/2016 7:30 pm, Marc Vloemans wrote: >> Thanks Andrea, >> >> You are quite right, unfortunately. Sharing and discussing experiences and >> insights on this could come across as negative. >> >> The same happened when I read an earlier discussion on a Code of Conduct for >> conferences. Frankly I was abhorred that such code was deemed necessary. >> Until I realised that I was perhaps ignorant (living in Amsterdam is such a >> privilege). >> >> Can I invite you to share your list-of-thoughts regarding potential pitfalls >> for a Conference at least with me (marcvloemans1[at]gmail.com)? It would be >> such a shame if we unintentionally overlook the obvious! >> >> Cheers, >> >> Marc Vloemans >> >> >> Op 30 mei 2016 om 03:49 heeft Andrea Ross <andrea.r...@eclipse.org> het >> volgende geschreven: >> >>> Marc, >>> >>> I started to write a whole bunch of thoughts related to this but instead >>> decided against as I felt it was stating the obvious and I didn't want the >>> thoughts to be perceived as negative. >>> >>> The essence was that these things you have listed are great, and they help >>> keep things from being screwed up, but they're not the hard work that it >>> takes to really make a difference. So good, but so much more is needed. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Andrea >>> >>>> On 28/05/16 11:26, Marc Vloemans wrote: >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> To build upon the positive results as mentioned in the thread below, I >>>> invite anyone to supply any suggestion that may support the LOC FOSS4G >>>> 2016 in Bonn Germany, regarding diversity related policies during the >>>> actual Conference. Either directly to me or via this list. >>>> >>>> As LOC we strive to be aware that public policies and personal experiences >>>> vary per continent, region, country and/or province. However, living in >>>> Western-Europe we sometimes are unaware how fortunate we are! That could >>>> hinder us in anticipating potential fears, uncertainties and doubts that >>>> visitors to Bonn may have. >>>> >>>> For starters, please note the following from >>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Germany : >>>> >>>> "Germany has become the first country in Europe to enact a law that allows >>>> German citizens to choose to neither identify as male or female on their >>>> birth certificate, which has been said to specifically benefit >>>> hermaphrodites and intersex persons." >>>> >>>> Unfortunately same sex marriage is still 'under construction', but that >>>> does not reflect negatively on a number of laws protecting the rights of >>>> the LGBTI community (including registered partnership). >>>> >>>> Best regards and hopefully we meet in Bonn, >>>> Marc Vloemans >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Vriendelijke groet, >>>> Marc Vloemans >>>> >>>> Op 28 mei 2016 om 03:04 heeft Andrea Ross <andrea.r...@eclipse.org> het >>>> volgende geschreven: >>>> >>>>> Dear Kristin, Everyone >>>>> >>>>> The sex/gender split was similar for FOSS4G NA 2016 as FOSS4G NA 2015. In >>>>> the range of 25 to 30 percent women for both speakers and attendees. We >>>>> don't ask people their gender as part of submitting or registering, so >>>>> this is obviously a best effort from having met a >>>>> number of folks, and discretely Google-stalking them just a little. >>>>> >>>>> We probably had a record high number of trans people participate, despite >>>>> North Carolina's HB2. Also because of HB2, many LGBT people reached out >>>>> to me before the conference to understand what was being done, and to >>>>> help decide whether to boycott or not. We are so grateful that so many >>>>> did not boycott, and came anyway. It was a moving experience for me to >>>>> learn how big the LGBT part of the community is and get a bit of the >>>>> sense of how important the work they're doing is. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I want to call out the exemplary work of the Raleigh Convention >>>>> Center. They really went above and beyond to ensure our attendees were >>>>> safe and comfortable. So far as I know, there were zero instances of >>>>> harassment of LGBT people. Laurie Okun from the Convention Center in >>>>> particular was a superstar and so impressive & professional from our >>>>> first contact when trying to assess Raleigh, through the chaos that HB2 >>>>> inflicted, and to the post-conference follow-up. We are grateful. >>>>> >>>>> So many good things to note. I also want to note that it is still a >>>>> mostly white conference. So the job is not done, and there's still much >>>>> more important work to be done. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> Andrea >>>>> >>>>>> On 27/05/16 17:28, Kristin Bott wrote: >>>>>> Thanks for sharing the synopsis; I'm especially encouraged by (1) gender >>>>>> (identity) parity in the planning committee (2) strong presence of >>>>>> female-identifying folk at the conference and (3) continued financial >>>>>> support for attendees. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd be curious what the gender split was across attendees v. speakers -- >>>>>> possibly something worth tracking across years of conferences to get a >>>>>> sense of any shifts in attendee demographics. >>>>>> >>>>>> cheers - >>>>>> -k.bott >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Mark Lucas <mluca...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>>> I had the pleasure of serving as the OSGeo representative for the 2016 >>>>>>> FOSS4G NA conference selection and planning. I thought the team did an >>>>>>> excellent job in selecting, planning and running the conference. The >>>>>>> team made the decision to not pursue a 2017 NA conference so as not to >>>>>>> compete for resources with the OSGeo >>>>>>> international conference. Our efforts will focus on 2018 planning and >>>>>>> selection for the next NA regional conference. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On a personal note I was initially concerned about how the relationship >>>>>>> with Location Tech and OSGeo would evolve. Our teaming has resulted in >>>>>>> yet another successful conference that I believe plays to the strengths >>>>>>> of both organizations. I was very pleased with the openness and >>>>>>> collaboration that I witnessed. >>>>>>> — Mark >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The synopsis from Andrea Ross is included below: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FOSS4G >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NA 2016 Synopsis (please feel free to >>>>>>> re-use this data) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> >>>>>>> conference ran from May 2-5, at >>>>>>> the Raleigh Convention Center, in >>>>>>> Raleigh North Carolina. The code >>>>>>> sprint & unconference ran May >>>>>>> 6 & 7 at Red Hat’s >>>>>>> headquarters, a few blocks from >>>>>>> the convention center. A Tour of >>>>>>> the NCSU OSGeo Research and >>>>>>> Education lab took place on May >>>>>>> 6th. >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> >>>>>>> conference featured 1 day of >>>>>>> workshops, 3 days of sessions, a >>>>>>> code sprint, an unconference, and >>>>>>> social events every night. There >>>>>>> were 93 full length (35 minute) >>>>>>> sessions, 36 short length (15 >>>>>>> minute) sessions, 10 workshops, >>>>>>> and 3 keynotes. This represented >>>>>>> an increase in full length. The >>>>>>> rooms were generally always near >>>>>>> full or slightly overflowing for >>>>>>> particularly popular talks, >>>>>>> despite them being big rooms. >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> >>>>>>> conference grew by 33% . There >>>>>>> were 558 attendees. This level of >>>>>>> increase is very positive, when so >>>>>>> many other conferences are in >>>>>>> decline. >>>>>>> Like >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015’s team, 50% of the 2016 >>>>>>> committee were women. Also like >>>>>>> 2015, a significant proportion of >>>>>>> speakers and attendees were women >>>>>>> (in the 30% range), which is great >>>>>>> to see. >>>>>>> 23 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> people were at the conference who >>>>>>> wouldn't have otherwise been >>>>>>> without the financial support we >>>>>>> gave them. >>>>>>> From >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the attendee survey, people were >>>>>>> clearly thrilled about the >>>>>>> conference... 99% positive >>>>>>> feedback. (n=102). The one >>>>>>> negative response said they were >>>>>>> disappointed there was no lunch >>>>>>> served. We’re not sure how they >>>>>>> missed it! The venue, the strong >>>>>>> program, and the positive & >>>>>>> supportive atmosphere were the >>>>>>> things people commented >>>>>>> (positively) on most. >>>>>>> People >>>>>>> >>>>>>> loved the keynotes, and especially >>>>>>> Tamar Cohen's entitled Extreme >>>>>>> Mapping. >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> >>>>>>> video recordings of sessions are >>>>>>> being uploaded to Youtube, with >>>>>>> dozens up, and more each day. >>>>>>> 90% >>>>>>> >>>>>>> of sponsors rated the value >>>>>>> excellent. 10% rated it very good. >>>>>>> The layout of the conference was >>>>>>> especially appreciated as it meant >>>>>>> plenty of traffic for sponsors at >>>>>>> all times. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This >>>>>>> >>>>>>> year’s conference was produced by >>>>>>> Andrea Ross and the team at the >>>>>>> Eclipse Foundation, the same as 2015. >>>>>>> Sarah Cordivano served as Community >>>>>>> Chair. Rob Emanuele was Program >>>>>>> Committee Chair, repeating the same >>>>>>> role he performed in 2015. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>>>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >>>>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >>>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > -- > Cameron Shorter, > Software and Data Solutions Manager > LISAsoft > Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, > 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009 > > P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099 > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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