Hi - in the midst of end-of-month deadlines I missed the first part of this thread....please feel free to relay to the "eu" or "board" lists.
a) One comment/recommendation, reproposing the one I made in Jan 2007 during the founding meeting of GFOSS.it aka Italian Chapter. This concerning the composition of the board / steering committee: it would greatly help if there were a mechanism to insure an equal presence from different stakeholder groups...namely: academics, (small-medium) enterprises, public-sector users, and possibly even "just citizens" with some level of geomatic maturity***. b) With such a composition, and a minimal level of resources to insure that the chapter can run a minimal set of activities, there is a starting point for an action of the chapter which will balance and harmonize different agendas. Without these conditions, there is a possibility that different scenarios may happen (i.e. the chapter may become a marketing office, or a "pure research lab", a "mapping party shop", etc...depending on the prevailing resources). Such evolutions may also be fine, as long as the community is aware of "paradigm shifts" in the expectations of what a volunteer-based venture should produce (...this related to the importance of defining a roadmap, as indicated by Jachim). c) Having followed for 20 years now the development of geomatics in relation to "EU stuff", having consistently advocated FOSS4G principles in EU-level activities in which I have been involved, and currently being engaged in EU-centered actitivities, I will be very interested to see the development of an OSGEU-EU Chapter. Ciao - Andrea Giacomelli http://www.pibinko.org [email protected] +39 331 7539228 P. IVA: 01582480537 2017-07-26 9:03 GMT+02:00 Maria Antonia Brovelli <[email protected]>: > Dear Maxi > Well noted. We'll discuss about that as well. This is a relevant point. > Thank you for suggesting solutions. > Are there other comments by other members? > Best regards > Maria > > > > > Sent from my Samsung device > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Massimiliano Cannata <[email protected]> > Date: 25/07/2017 14:13 (GMT+01:00) > To: Dirk Frigne <[email protected]>, OSGeo Discussions < > [email protected]>, [email protected], OSGeo Board < > [email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Board] Fwd: Official expression of interest forming a > European Chapter > > Dear European charter members and OSGeo board, > I would like to express my support for an OSGeo continental chapter and > provide my point of view, that even if often considered uncomfortable, hope > will bring discussion to improve. > > I hope that before starting the chapter: > > * there is a clear and equitable rule for using the OSGeo name in European > bids (see h2020 for example) since this may be a competitive advantage. > It is totally unclear to me how OSGeo-EU would relate to H2020 projects > for example: > - Will it participate as a partner in any calls? > - How the selection of supported project will be done? > - How, in case of funding, allocated money will be distributed to members? > > * there is a defined and focused coordination with local chapters > - synergies are needed to avoid duplication of efforts and adoption of a > common action line. > - ideally I'd like to see a hierarchical structure from international to > continental and national level "chapters" but this is a matter for the > board.. > > Here some proposed actions, > that in my opinion would demonstrate the open principle of the OSGeo > European Chapter community: > > * run a democratic election of the board representatives within 6 months > from the inception > > * include all the OSGeo charter member that express their willing as > "full" member (was charter member in OSGeo not sure how "full member" is in > OSGeo-EU) > > > Regards, > Maxi > > > > Il 24 lug 2017 2:56 PM, "Dirk Frigne" <[email protected]> ha > scritto: > >> Maria >> >> "is a member of a local chapter also a charter >> > member of Eu Chapter? Or we will have a complex structure where local >> > chapter members can be not Eu charter members but charter members of >> > OSGeo as a whole?" >> >> No, as Jody and Lucca already mentioned, this is an organisation of >> volunteers. Everybody who wants to volunteer can become a member, but >> volunteers can also be 'only' OSGeo members. >> >> The "official" OSGeo-Europe members are responsible to guard the correct >> working of the organisation, as a legal structure. 22 volunteers >> expressed there interest to become a founding member and have signed the >> bylaws that we discussed last year as a google drive document, and >> during the BOF of July 19 2017. >> >> As a community we appreciate the help of everybody who wants to promote >> Geo free and open source software. Everybody who want's to support the >> local chapter can add his name on the wiki [1]. As of today there are >> already 27 names on the list. The bylaws have a mechanism to add these >> members as "full members" during the next general assembly (a similar >> process as for OSGeo.org). >> >> But as Lucca already mentioned: it is more important to be a member of >> OSGeo.org, although I hope we can make OSGeo.org stronger trough the >> initiative we are setting up. >> >> Once we've got our formal acceptance by the OSGeo Board, we will publish >> the bylaws in the Belgian Official Journal and create the legal >> structure. We will start to setup the agenda of the typical European >> points we want to work on this first year asap after acceptance. >> >> >> Dirk >> >> PS. I added the European list as I think this discussion also concerns >> the European list. >> >> >> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Europe >> >> On 2017-07-23 15:32, Luca Delucchi wrote: >> > On 23 July 2017 at 12:54, Jody Garnett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> All local chapters have the same relationship with OSGeo. >> >> >> >> A key reason to found a local chapter is to interact and advocate for >> open >> >> source on a regional city, state or national or union level - >> something the >> >> global osgeo organization is not in the best position to do. >> >> >> >> I do not think it is useful (or any of our business) to ask about >> members >> >> being automatically in a group. We are a volunteer organization and >> members >> >> volunteer where their hearts lie. >> >> >> > >> > I fully agree with Jody, OSGeo EU will be a local chapter with its >> > freedom as all the others, only the people who want be part of it >> > should be part of it (for example I'm in Italian local chapter but >> > right now I choose to not be part of OSGeo EU) >> > >> > As I already told during this days I don't fully believe on it right >> > now (maybe in the future will be different) and I'm a little bit >> > worried about the energy that it will take from other >> > activities/chapter. >> > >> > However with more than 20 founders, most of them really well known in >> > the OSGeo family, I think that OSGeo EU should be accepted as new >> > chapter. >> > >> > my2cents >> > >> >> -- >> Yours sincerely, >> >> >> ir. Dirk Frigne >> CEO @geosparc >> >> Geosparc n.v. >> Brugsesteenweg 587 >> B-9030 Ghent >> Tel: +32 9 236 60 18 <+32%209%20236%2060%2018> >> GSM: +32 495 508 799 >> >> http://www.geomajas.org >> http://www.geosparc.com >> >> @DFrigne >> be.linkedin.com/in/frigne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Board mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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