Marc I agree, great and huge work was done. Maybe a freezing period before of any public release/presentation would be good?
We're not in a hurry... With more time review and discussion can run smoothly? Also, We're in the middle of the holiday season and also vacation time is limited :-) to answer and check contents... Great work done Maxi Best Maxi Il 16 ago 2017 2:42 PM, "Marc Vloemans" <marcvloema...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Dear all, > > I feel that the "tail is wagging the dog" as they say. And we are on the > brink of pushing valuable volunteers too far. Again. > > Your feed back on the website is needed, welcomed and enlisted, but please > be it combined with some actionable way to go forward and a helping hand. > The site is still in full progress, if one looks behind the scenes; there > is a really massive content creation thrust going on, the visitor journey > experience is enhanced on a daily basis, a multitude of tweaks in progress > and ..... the FOSS4Paris and Foss4gBoston preparations had to be done too. > > It is not the the Marketing Committee that has to fix anything regarding > projects and policy related issues here. > Jody and many others have had to make decisions - lacking input on various > occasions- in good faith. Often lacking clear direction and decisions and > actual support. This inefficiency has often resulted in rework and loss of > volunteer time. The Committee is fully aware that there are still > iterations to be done. Up till now they have done something extraordinary, > unparalleled in recent OSGeo years. Some slack is in good order. > > By the way. The projects that are listed have all an OSI approved license. > That has sufficed in the past. Let the free vs open discussion rest till a > later date (if it needs to be conducted at all). Subdivisions of projects > can be done in various ways: pleasing everyone in our community is a holy > grail. > > And again. Please be aware that there is a finite number of volunteer > hours in a volunteer day. > > Kind regards, > Marc Vloemans > > > Op 16 aug. 2017 om 07:37 heeft Maria Antonia Brovelli < > maria.brove...@polimi.it> het volgende geschreven: > > I agree completely with Helena. It has to be fixed with the highest > priority. > > Have a good day, > > Maria > > > > Pay attention to this Special Issue and see if it is of interest by you: > > http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ijgi/special_issues/Geospatial_Big_Data_Urban_ > Studies > > > > *----------------------------------------------------* > *Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli* > Professor of GIS and Remote Sensing > Politecnico di Milano > > ISPRS WG IV/4 "Collaborative crowdsourced cloud mapping (C3M)" > http://www2.isprs.org/commissions/comm4/wg4.html, Board of Directors > of OSGeo; GeoForAll Advisory Board; NASA WorldWind Europa Challenge; > SIFET Advisory Board > > > UN-GGIM Academic Network Deputy Chair, UN-GGIM Italy, UN OpenGIS > Initiative (Chair of the Capacity Building WG) > > > *Sol Katz Award 2015* > > > > P.zza Leonardo da Vinci, 32 - Building 3 - 20133 Milano (Italy) > > Tel. +39-02-23996242 - Mob. +39-328-0023867, <maria.brove...@polimi.it> > maria.brove...@polimi.it > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *Da:* Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> per conto di Helena > Mitasova <hmit...@ncsu.edu> > *Inviato:* mercoledì 16 agosto 2017 13:29 > *A:* Paulo van Breugel > *Cc:* OSGeo Discussions; Helmut Kudrnovsky > *Oggetto:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Project selection on the new website draft > > Jody, I have to go so I don't have time to write more but this needs to be > fixed instantly to avoid massive backlash against the new website. After so > much effort it would be heartbreaking to have a negative reaction just > because we would be perceived as providing advertising platform for > projects which are not really free and open source (I guess we will hear > more about this from Stallman tomorrow). > > Helena > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Paulo van Breugel <p.vanbreu...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> >> On 8/16/17 9:32 AM, Jody Garnett wrote: >> >> We could ask the OSGeo live project what procedure they use, at the >> moment we have asked on the disc...@osgeo.org mailing list for open >> source projects to fill in a google form so we would have content to try >> out the website with. >> >> There is a very clear distinguishing of OSGeo projects on the website: >> >> a) Sort order is OSGeo projects > OSGeo Community > Other >> b) Only OSGeo projects are available from the menu directly, >> c) When listed OSGeo Projects, and OSGeo Community projects are badged >> with the appropriate logo >> >> When I use the link http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/ directly, I >> am seeing the page with all projects, with projects in what seems to be >> random order (and with some of the OSGEO projects, like GRASS, on the last >> page). Only when I click on 'projects' in the menu am I presented with the >> projects grouped in Osgeo projects, osgeo community, others. Wouldn't it be >> preferable to use that page as landing page when using the link >> http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/ directly? >> >> >> >> This is going to be an interesting week collecting feedback when lots of >> the website is not working as designed quite yet (examples tagging and >> sorting). To be fair the vast majority of project descriptions were entered >> last weekend so this is our first chance to try things out with actual >> content :) >> >> >> >> -- >> Jody Garnett >> >> On 16 August 2017 at 02:36, Helmut Kudrnovsky <hel...@web.de> wrote: >> >>> >>> >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. August 2017 um 06:28 Uhr >>> >Von: "Jody Garnett" >>> >Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Project selection on the new website draft >>> > >>> >Not sure it is much of an explanation - our vision as a group is to >>> empower everyone with geospatial - and there is a lot of open source >>> >spatial to promote. >>> > >>> >By the same vision live.osgeo.org[http://live.osgeo.org] includes all >>> kinds of projects :) >>> > >>> >The key idea is to help people new to our world to go through the >>> choose a project pages and discover projects that meet their needs. >>> > >>> >The website is a beta, we now have enough projects to test out these >>> ideas and see what issues we can find. There is a meeting tomorrow >with >>> the vendor that should be productive (a hands on training session[ >>> https://wiki.osgeo.org >>> >/wiki/FOSS4G_2017_Code_Sprint#Website_Training] for any one attending >>> foss4g). >>> >>> I'm following the new website and branding process a little bit by the >>> mailing lists. >>> >>> is there anywhere a documented discussion or a documented and approved >>> decision about how the project selection to be listed on the OSGeo website >>> is done? I can't find anyone. >>> >>> To be inclusive is one side; not to distinguish OSGeo projects from >>> other software projects from other initatives (e.g. locationtech) or GIS >>> vendors without any supplement words in the OSGeo website, I'm feeling >>> unconformable with it. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Helmut >>> >>> OSGeo charter member >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing >> listDiscuss@lists.osgeo.orghttps://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > > > -- > Helena Mitasova > Professor > Department of Marine, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences > North Carolina State University > 1125 Jordan Hall > NCSU Box 8208 > Raleigh, NC 27695-8208 > http://www4.ncsu.edu/~hmitaso/ > http://geospatial.ncsu.edu/ > > email: hmit...@ncsu.edu > ph: 919-513-1327 (no voicemail) > fax 919 515-7802 > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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