Dear Maria, Thanks for your kind words! Regarding my comment on 'envy'; I have to deal with 20-ish members, while Venka has a thousand-fold voices to bring together. Not something I can ever do. It was therefore a friendly pun.
Have safe travels yourself, as well. And hope to meet in Europe soon. Kind regards, Marc Vloemans > Op 18 aug. 2017 om 20:31 heeft Maria Antonia Brovelli > <maria.brove...@polimi.it> het volgende geschreven: > > Dear Marc > I absolutely agree with you that, as entities sharing some common interests, > we shall discuss and verify what we can go together. > Knowing better each other and arriving at the end to a clear MoU between the > two organisations is what we have to do. > I don't agree with you when you are not envious of Venka. The discussion and > diverse visions in the community is one of the richness of OSGEO. Difficult > to deal with but much richer. > And, at the end, in my opinion we have some time for reasoning and > discussing. > Thanks to everybody who wants to contribute to the discussion! > Have a safe flight back to Europe! > Best > Maria > > > > Sent from my Samsung device > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Marc Vloemans <marcvloema...@gmail.com> > Date: 18/08/2017 09:15 (GMT-05:00) > To: Michael Smith <michael.smith.e...@gmail.com>, Venkatesh Raghavan > <ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> > Cc: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>, Helmut Kudrnovsky > <hel...@web.de> > Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Collaboration within the community > > Hi Venka, > > Thanks for your kind reply and picking up the Paris-conversation. > > As Michael rightfully refers to, and all involved will understand; the MoU > (or any other type of agreement) has to reflect the interests and > concerns/challenges of both organisations. > > We both have our members to take into account, on behalf of which we act and > speak. You are dealing with a membership of a multitude of individuals, I > speak on behalf of a group of projects and businesses. Two sometimes > different and other times very alike interest groups. Actually, I don't envy > you ;-) > > At the same time, we are already working together on so many occasions, > events, projects etc. That has grown incrementally, bottom up and as part of > a do-ocracy. It has proven to be quite successful and I don't intend to have > too much red tape interfere with all the good stuff that is happening. > > With OSGeo doing so much in the field of outreach and advocacy and > LocationTech providing a market place for techno-commercial entities, both > working on a multitude of interconnected projects, with overlapping > communities......that is a really powerful combination. We have a world to > win! > > Kind regards, > Marc Vloemans > > > > Op 18 aug. 2017 om 07:34 heeft Michael Smith <michael.smith.e...@gmail.com> > > het volgende geschreven: > > > > Venka, > > > > This is something we discussed quite a bit at both the Boston F2F and at > > the LocationTech meeting that I was invited to attend. It was agreed that > > we all wanted to work together on the MoU but to also work closer together > > on the process so it reflects interests and concerns on both sides. Norman > > Barker will be attending some OSGeo board meetings to continue the > > discussions and I will be attending some LocationTech meetings as well. We > > need to keep discussing this both at the meetings and on the list to > > continue forward with what is already a very good working relationship. > > > > Mike > > > > ---- > > Michael Smith > > OSGeo Foundation Treasurer > > treasu...@osgeo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Venkatesh > > Raghavan <ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> > > Date: Friday, August 18, 2017 at 2:41 AM > > To: Marc Vloemans <marcvloema...@gmail.com>, Helmut Kudrnovsky > > <hel...@web.de>, OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Collaboration is the way > > forward: Note the LocationTech badge is not showing correctly > > Resent-From: Michael Smith <michael.sm...@usace.army.mil> > > > >> Hi Marc, > >> > >> Many thanks to LocationTech for supporting > >> OSGeo events and code sprints. > >> > >> As discussed with you at FOSS4G-Europe last month, > >> we could consider going beyond the "informal" partnership > >> between LocationTech and OSGeo Foundation and having > >> a MoU. I think this would help to answer some of the questions > >> that Helmut has raised and avoid any misunderstandings > >> in the future. > >> > >> I had sent you some suggestions on drafting an MoU that you can > >> go through and perhaps, find time to discuss f2f with OSGeo board > >> members attending FOSS4G-Boston. > >> > >> Best > >> > >> Venka > >> > >>> On 2017/08/18 6:23, Marc Vloemans wrote: > >>> Dear Helmut, > >>> > >>> I am also a charter member. And much more in our ever-growing and > >>> evolving community. > >>> > >>> LocationTech is a partner of OSGeo, we work on various joint projects, > >>> LocationTech is sponsor of OSGeo code sprints, we work together for many > >>> years on FOSS4G North Amerika. We do valuable complementary work > >>> regarding community and market development. > >>> > >>> All this has been achieved over the years incrementally and by the > >>> efforts, care and vision of many directly involved. An achievement, that > >>> by raising a discussion as you propose > >>> > >>> Your confusion thus confuses me (besides Chair of the Marketing > >>> Committee, former Board member of OSGeoNL, member of the LOC FOSS4G > >>> 2016, Chair of FOSS4G North Amerika and ........ Director Ecosystem > >>> Development Eclipse Foundation with special focus on its Industry > >>> Working Group LocationTech. > >>> > >>> Your comments are actually turning back the clock. > >>> > >>> If you may remember, in the recent past some very unfortunately > >>> misunderstandings have created a we/them atmosphere. The present FOSS4G > >>> in Boston proves we are as an inclusive community moving forward. > >>> Towards unimaginable opportunities. > >>> > >>> Kind regards, > >>> Marc Vloemans > >>> > >>> > >>>> Op 17 aug. 2017 om 15:19 heeft Helmut Kudrnovsky <hel...@web.de> het > >>>> volgende geschreven: > >>>> > >>>> (Taken from > >>>> BlockedBlockedhttps://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-August/0354 > >>>> 53.html)Blocked > >>>> > >>>> "Note the LocationTech badge is not not showing correctly" > >>>> > >>>> now I am, as an OSGeo charter member, really really confused about > >>>> this. > >>>> > >>>> What I'm really missing here is an open discussion and decision making > >>>> how we, as an organisation OSGeo, going forward to promote projects > >>>> from other organisations. > >>>> > >>>> What is the added value for OSGeo to promote locationtech projects? > >>>> Will locationtech also promote OSGeo projects? Why not promote projects > >>>> from any other org? Who will decide which project or other org will be > >>>> promoted?.... > >>>> > >>>> Too many open questions without any sound background for me as an > >>>> OSGeo charter member. > >>>> > >>>> Kind regards > >>>> Helmut > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Discuss mailing list > >>>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > >>>> BlockedBlockedhttps://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discussBlocked > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Discuss mailing list > >>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > >>> BlockedBlockedhttps://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discussBlocked > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Discuss mailing list > >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > >> BlockedBlockedhttps://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discussBlocked > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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