Thank you Jody for tackling what I think are hard questions, and being prepared to disagree. You are right, on re-reading I can see that my questions are leading to a specific answer. I do acknowledge the value of face-to-face meetings.

Maxi, great to see your responses - it is showing a community empowered to engage, which I think is really valuable. You are right, anyone can contribute to OSGeo. Why don't more people do so?

I suggest that the effectiveness of OSGeo's cross-community collaboration lapsed a few years ago, and has just started to recover in the last year or so.

I think that there are a few factors for this:

* There were lapses in respect between individuals, leading to unpleasant, "off topic" and sometimes noisy discussions which people preferred to avoid.

* There were shifts away from productive "bottom up" conversations; shifts toward "political" conversations; toward people "calling rank" using "you should ..." language; toward people being hindered from scratching their itch; toward ideas without practical implementation plans and without volunteers taking actions.

* Overall, it meant the "Return on effort", "Signal to Noise Ratio" and "Enjoyment from being involved" for each person in the community was reduced.

I feel that the OSGeo board plays a part in setting the tone for OSGeo communication which in turn effects the level of engagement from the community. So I'm hopeful we will see our board continuing to improve on these factors.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 16/10/17 9:23 pm, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
i'm not a board member but i'd like to answer anyway... :-D

1. OSGeo committees are already empowered to take decision, the board have to ratify them and eventually, in case ask for revision. This is a normal structure of control to guarantee the whole community.

2. I think the community is made by person, that interact each others to build trust and relationships. Without participation and presence in person one cannot really say he understand the community, so support presence to strategic events of board members is needed.

3. People can empower them-self, OSGeo is very open and anyone is more then welcome to give his view and ideas. The main weak point of OSGeo I think is the community, which is too silent also when a call for opinion is rise.

Cheers, Maxi

On 17/10/17 2:44 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
I think Maxi beat us all to answering and has spoken very well.

On 16 October 2017 at 03:11, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    OSGeo Board Candidates,

    I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on these ideas. Most
    pertinently:

    1. How do you feel about empowering OSGeo committees, avoiding
    over-riding committee decisions in all but exceptional
    circumstances. (Board members can join committees)?

Your question is a bit leading - in assuming an answer about over-riding.

I think we have a mechanism in place to empower committees:

- negotiating a mandate with the committee,  which can be revised as required (we saw the conference committee take on an additional responsibility this year)
- providing a budget for activities, although this plays a smaller role

By negotiating a mandate the board is empowering a committee, that negotiation may or may not include the ability to over-ride a committee decision. The incubation committee for example has a direct note about independence. This is also why I am interested in seeing committee and project officers covered by our insurance - each committee is provided considerable responsibility and should be backed accordingly.

The key glitch, that I have talked through with several committee chairs, is the realization how much responsibility their committee has - and that the group do not have to wait on the board for approval. They have a mandate, and are left with the the much tougher task of gathering together and motivating our volunteers and contributors.

I do not want to over emphasis the role of a budget - we have direct evidence that we are a volunteer driven organization in that our committees lack active volunteers to spend the money they outline each year.

Board members, the individuals, can of course join committees. Keep in mind they would then be operating as committee members (tracking the purpose of that committee) and not be given any additional responsibility.

I also really like the idea of short term initiatives that are formed to tackle a idea, and dissolve when the their goal is accomplished.  I think this is a great thing for the board, or any committee, to do. I would love to see more focused "initiatives" gathering together interested parties from across our organization.

    2. How do you feel about minimising the perception of board
    positions being considered as a "Honey Pot". Do this by avoiding
    having  board members be expected to attend events which require
    travel expenses, and hence avoid having board members being
    reimbursed from OSGeo.

This is tricky, I certaintly understand how this impression could be formed. Once again this is a leading question where you have provided your own preferred answer.

For some of our relationships OSGeo is expected to act in a professional manner and send delegates to events, or provide someone "official" to attend and speak on behalf of our organization. When we had a paid representative this was easy, we booked a plane ticket.

For a while we moved to exhausting our president (often the same person who chaired the board meetings) flying them around to perform this function.

We are currently trying out having vice-presidents in each region, it has certainly reduced travel costs and allowed us to treat Venka with more care.

I know cameron that you have tried to create an "advocate" system where each region would have a number of people recognized as being able to speak on behalf of our organization. For my personal take I think *any osgeo charter member* can be asked by a committee or board to speak and act in an official capacity.

I like the idea of *any member operating in official capacity* being able to be reimbursed for expenses. I do not mind if if that is at the bequest of a committee or the board (hey the board is a committee too!). As long as the committee is operating with in its mandate, and has secured budget or sponsorship to act, please use what limited funds we have to be more effective.

Let me try with a foss4g example, OSGeo project chairs have a responsibility to attend the AGM and report (providing transparency in how the project is doing, if there needs are being met, and how they spent their budget if they requested one). In 2017 some projects met this responsibility by sending a project team member who was already attending the event. In 2018 I would like projects to consider budgeting for their chair to attend the event, as part of the cost of being part of our organization.

So I see your request to reduce board travel, and I answer with a request to distribute travel better across our organization.

With respect to board travel, this configuration of the board was much more effective in face to face meetings (and in hangouts) than in our traditional IRC meeting format. As such it was the right decision to have several face to face meetings - I am pretty sure the key benefit was being unplugged from their day to day work responsibilities to have a chance to focus on our organization. We can see a number of requests for a secretary to make this format more effective. I instead recommend the board members adopted a consistent chair and secretary between meetings; and nail down action items coming out of any decision.

    3. Do you think you can help empower people who think they can
    positively update OSGeo's vision?

This is tricky as you are asking about me personally, rather than the board. The best thing I can do personally is extend people my trust and enthusiasm.



    On 16/10/17 9:36 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:

    **

    *The 2017 OSGeo Board elections are about to start. Some of us
    who have been involved with OSGeo over the years have collated
    thoughts about the effectiveness of different strategies.
    Hopefully these thoughts will be useful for future boards, and
    charter members who are about to select board members.*

    *

    The Yin and Yang of OSGeo

    As with life, there are a number of Yin vs Yang questions we are
    continually trying to balance. Discussions around acting as a
    high or low capital organisation; organising top down vs bottom
    up; populating a board with old wisdom or fresh blood; personal
    vs altruistic motivation; protecting privacy vs public
    transparency. Let’s discuss some of them here.

    Time vs Money

    OSGeo is an Open Source organisation using a primary currency of
    volunteer time. We mostly self-manage our time via principles of
    Do-ocracy and Merit-ocracy. This is bottom up.

    However, OSGeo also manages some money. Our board divvies up a
    budget which is allocated down to committees and projects. This
    is top-down command-and-control management. This cross-over
    between volunteer and market economics is a constant point of
    tension. (For more on the cross-over of economies, see Paul
    Ramsey’s FOSS4G 2017 Keynote,
    http://blog.cleverelephant.ca/2017/08/foss4g-keynote.html
    <http://blog.cleverelephant.ca/2017/08/foss4g-keynote.html>)

    High or low capital organisation?

    Our 2013 OSGeo Board tackled this question:

    
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Board_:_Board_Priorities_2013#OSGeo_as_a_low_capital.2C_volunteer_focused_organisation
    
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Board_:_Board_Priorities_2013#OSGeo_as_a_low_capital.2C_volunteer_focused_organisation>

    Should OSGeo act as a high capital or low capital organisation?
    I.e., should OSGeo dedicate energy to collecting sponsorship and
    then passing out these funds to worthy OSGeo causes.

    While initially it seems attractive to have OSGeo woo sponsors,
    because we would all love to have more money to throw at worthy
    OSGeo goals, the reality is that chasing money is hard work. And
    someone who can chase OSGeo sponsorship is likely conflicted with
    chasing sponsorship for their particular workplace. So in
    practice, to be effective in chasing sponsorship, OSGeo will
    probably need to hire someone specifically for the role. OSGeo
    would then need to raise at least enough to cover wages, and then
    quite a bit more if the sponsorship path is to create extra value.

    This high capital path is how the Apache foundation is set up,
    and how LocationTech propose to organise themselves. It is the
    path that OSGeo started following when founded under the umbrella
    of Autodesk.

    However, as OSGeo has grown, OSGeo has slowly evolved toward a
    low capital volunteer focused organisation. Our overheads are
    very low, which means we waste very little of our volunteer
    labour and capital on the time consuming task of chasing and
    managing money. Consequently, any money we do receive (from
    conference windfalls or sponsorship) goes a long way - as it
    doesn't get eaten up by high overheads.

    Size and Titles

    Within small communities influence is based around meritocracy
    and do-ocracy. Good ideas bubble to the top and those who do the
    work decide what work gets done. Leaders who try to pull rank in
    order to gain influence quickly lose volunteers. Within these
    small communities, a person’s title hold little tradable value.

    However, our OSGeo community has grown very large, upward of tens
    of thousands of people. At this size, we often can’t use our
    personal relationships to assess reputation and trust. Instead we
    need to rely on other cues, such as titles and allocated
    positions of power.

    Consider also that OSGeo projects have become widely adopted. As
    such, knowledge and influence within an OSGeo community has
    become a valuable commodity. It helps land a job; secure a
    speaking slot at a conference; or get an academic paper published.

    This introduces a commercial dynamic into our volunteer power
    structures:

     *

        A title is sometimes awarded to a dedicated volunteer, hoping
        that it can be traded for value within the commercial
        economy. (In practice, deriving value from a title is much
        harder than it sounds).

     *

        There are both altruistic and personal reasons for someone to
        obtain a title. A title can be used to improve the
        effectiveness of the volunteer; or to improve the volunteers
        financial opportunities.

     *

        This can prompt questions of a volunteer’s motivations.

    In response to this, over the years we have seen a gradual change
    to position of roles within the OSGeo community.

    Top-down vs bottom-up

    OSGeo board candidates have been asked for their “vision”, and
    “what they would like to change or introduce”.
    https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2017_Candidate_Manifestos
    <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2017_Candidate_Manifestos> These
    are valid questions if OSGeo were run as a command-and-control
    top-down hierarchy; if board made decisions were delegated to
    OSGeo committees to implement. But OSGeo is bottom-up.

    Boards which attempt to centralise control and delegate tasks
    cause resentment and disengagement amongst volunteers. Likewise,
    communities who try to delegate tasks to their leaders merely
    burn out their leaders. Both are ignoring the principles of
    Do-ocracy and Merit-ocracy. So ironically, boards which do less
    are often helping more.

    Darwinian evolution means that only awesome ideas and inspiring
    leaders attract volunteer attention - and that is a good thing.

    Recognising ineffective control attempts

    How do you recognise ineffective command-and-control techniques
    within a volunteer community? Look for statements such as:

     *

        “The XXX committee needs to do YYY…”

     *

        “Why isn’t anyone helping us do …?”

     *

        “The XXX community hasn’t completed YYY requirements - we
        need to tell them to implement ZZZ”

    If all the ideas from an organisation come from management, then
    management isn’t listening to their team.

    Power to the people

    In most cases the board should keep out of the way of OSGeo
    communities. Only in exceptional circumstances should a board
    override volunteer initiatives.

    Decisions and power within OSGeo should be moved back into OSGeo
    committees, chapters and projects. This empowers our community,
    and motivates volunteers wishing to scratch an itch.

    We do want our board members to be enlightened, motivated and
    engaged within OSGeo. This active engagement should be done
    within OSGeo communities: partaking, facilitating or mentoring as
    required. A recent example of this was Jody Garnett’s active
    involvement with OSGeo rebranding - where he worked with others
    within the OSGeo marketing committee.

    Democratising key decisions

    While we have a charter membership of nearly 400 who are tasked
    with ‘protecting’ the principles of the foundation and voting for
    new charter members and the board. Beyond this, charter members
    have had little way of engaging with the board to influence the
    direction of OSGeo.

    How can we balance the signal-to-noise ratio such that we can
    achieve effective membership engagement with the board without
    overwhelming ourselves with chatter? Currently we have no formal
    or prescribed processes for such consultation.

    Reimbursement

    OSGeo Board members are not paid for their services. However,
    they are regularly invited to partake in activities such as
    presenting at conferences or participating in meetings with other
    organisations. These are typically beneficial to both OSGeo and
    the leader’s reputation or personal interest. To avoid OSGeo
    Board membership being seen as a “Honey Pot”, and for the Board
    to maintain trust and integrity, OSGeo board members should
    refuse payment from OSGeo for partaking in such activities.
    (There is nothing wrong with accepting payment from another
    organisation, such as the conference organisers.)

    In response to the question of conferences, OSGeo has previously
    created OSGeo Advocates - an extensive list of local volunteers
    from around the world willing to talk about OSGeo.
    https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate
    <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate>

    Old vs new

    Should we populate our board with old wisdom or encourage fresh
    blood and new ideas? We ideally want a bit of both, bring wisdom
    from the past, but also spreading the opportunity of leadership
    across our membership. We should avoid leadership becoming an
    exclusive “boys club” without active community involvement, and
    possibly should consider maximum terms for board members.

    If our leadership follow a “hands off oversight role”, then past
    leaders can still play influential roles within OSGeo’s
    subcommittees.

    Vision for OSGeo 2.0

    Prior OSGeo thought leaders have suggested it’s time to grow from
    OSGeo 1.0 to OSGeo 2.0. Update our vision and mission.  A few of
    those ideas have fed into OSGeo’s website revamp currently
    underway. This has been a good start, but there is still room to
    acknowledge that much has changed since OSGeo was born a decade
    ago, and there are plenty of opportunities to positively redefine
    ourselves.

    A test of OSGeo’s effectiveness is to see how well community
    ideas are embraced and taken through to implementation. This is a
    challenge that I hope will attract new energy and new ideas from
    a new OSGeo generation.

    Here are a few well considered ideas that have been presented to
    date that we can start from:

     *

        Michael Gerlek July 2015, “We won. It's time for OSGeo 2.0”,
        https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-July/014521.html
        <https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-July/014521.html>

     *

        Darrell Fuhriman: September 2015, “OSGeo is becoming
        irrelevant. Here's why. Let's fix it.”
        https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/032616.html
        <https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/032616.html>

     *

        Marc Vloemans, March 2014, OSGeo Marketing Analysis,
        https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Marketing_Committee
        <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Marketing_Committee>

     *

        OSGeo Board of 2013, “OSGeo Board Priorities”,
        
http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/osgeo-board-priorities.html
        
<http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/osgeo-board-priorities.html>

     *

        (There are a few more which I haven’t located - please do
        suggest them).

    Recommendations

    So where does this leave us.

     *

        Let’s recognise that OSGeo is an Open Source community, and
        we organise ourselves best with bottom-up Meritocracy and
        Do-ocracy.

     *

        Wherever possible, decisions should be made at the committee,
        chapter or project level, with the board merely providing
        hands-off oversight. This empowers and enables our
        sub-communities.

     *

        Let’s identify strategic topics where the OSGeo board would
        benefit from consultation with charter membership and work
        out how this could be accomplished efficiently and effectively.

     *

        Let’s embrace and encourage new blood into our leadership
        ranks, while retaining access to our wise old white beards.

     *

        The one top-down task for the board is based around
        allocation of OSGeo’s (minimal) budget.

-- Cameron Shorter
    Open Technologies Consultant
    Geospatial & Software Architect
    Information Demystifier

    M +61 (0) 419 142 254 <tel:+61%20419%20142%20254>
    http://shorter.net

*

-- Cameron Shorter
    Open Technologies Consultant
    Geospatial & Software Architect
    Information Demystifier

    M+61 (0) 419 142 254 <tel:+61%20419%20142%20254>
    http://shorter.net


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