Hi Patrick,

I agree that this is a difficult issue . Almost everyone involved in 
editing/reviewing a scientific journal today is aware of this problem, but what 
steps are we taking to reduce this?


I am requesting all  Chief Editors of Scientific journals in GIS to share data 
for the last three years . Even if for any reason they are not able to disclose 
details of individual papers , they can atleast share the summary statistics of 
 dubious submissions they received. Only once we know the true scale of the 
problem, then we can plan effective steps to rectify this. One journal or 
organisation alone cannot do anything meaningful  to solve this. It needs the 
joint working of everyone. There will be lot of pressure from  vested interests 
, but I am requesting all colleagues to not bow to any pressures.


First,  it is important that GIS scientific and professional organisations take 
strong moral stand against taking sponsorship for scholarly publications from 
all GIS vendors . Independent peer review system is the fundamental aspect of 
science. So I am humbly requesting all Scientific organisations to  not use   
any GIS vendor controlled press for publishing scholarly outputs (edited books 
etc)  .


Science is not a commodity to be marketed or sold by any vendor owners! I am 
very sad and disappointed to see this degrading of science happening. 
Scientific organisations should not endorse any specific vendor products etc as 
“Science” and take strong moral stand against  marketing of products as 
“Science’ by any vendor owners!


As Educators and Scientists , I believe we cannot sit silently. Because if we 
turn a blind eye on this issue, it will affect the  GIS discipline’s 
credibility  for the future.


Independent peer review is the fundamental aspect of science and we need to 
ensure all steps to protect this.


Best wishes,


Suchith



________________________________
From: Patrick Hogan <phoga...@yahoo.com>
Sent: 18 July 2018 18:28
To: Suchith Anand; discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Journal editors - please share summary statistics


Suchith,



I for one dearly appreciate the sentiment and intent of your carefully 
expressed concerns. This issue needs to be identified and described as you are 
doing so well!



We need this discussion to be qualitative, yet examples of the good, the bad 
and the ugly will certainly help to guide that discussion. And I too feel that 
we are losing ground by putting an open source veneer around enormous 
profit-machines’ products. This certainly doesn’t get us any closer to the 
sustainable world we need.



If humanity is to have a brighter future, technology must operate with a more 
collective spirit. Progress in this area will be rather difficult, given the 
entrenched nature of the profit machine and its gate-keeper mentality.



Thank you for initiating this discussion.

-Patrick Hogan



From: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> On Behalf Of Suchith Anand
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 11:31 PM
To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Journal editors - please share summary statistics


Dear colleagues,

It has come to my attention that there is rapid increase in low quality and 
dubious submissions send to all journals. This is a global problem that needs a 
coordinated effort to help solve.  With the rapid increase in lot of low 
quality and dubious  submissions to all journals , it is important that all 
professional and scientific organisations are careful in this .


My humble suggestion and request is that all  GIS professional organisations 
should avoid  taking any sponsorship or royalty for scholarly publications 
(books, journals etc) from any GIS vendors . If a professional association 
takes sponsorship for any scholarly publication (edited books etc)  from any 
GIS vendor and agrees to publish it through the vendor’s press then there is 
potential issues with independent peer review and ensuring scientific quality. 
It is only natural that any GIS vendor publication press to have vested 
interests in promoting their products and  agenda. It also makes it easy for 
the vendor to get endorsement for their  products from scientific and 
professional organisations using this route.


By taking sponsorship for scholarly publications (edited books etc)  from any 
vendors , it will then become difficult for the Professional Organisations to 
take strong moral  stand against low quality and dubious submissions for other 
journals .Especially in times we are seeing increase in fake scientific 
articles submissions etc, it is important to  have clear guidelines for any 
sponsorship.

I am happy to work on a Open Letter to highlight this issue but will need help 
from the wider community. If you are a journal editor, it will be very helpful, 
if you can share the statistics of how many  articles that you have identified 
in the last three years that are problem and you have rejected .It will be 
helpful to share examples of these (removing author details etc) , so the wider 
community is aware of the problem and can take steps to help reduce the problem 
in the future.


Best wishes,

Suchith







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