On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 13:09, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Make a proposal to the board if you want to set this up as a cross project 
> initiative.
>
> Marketing board would happy to accept your proposal also (this is a barrier 
> to adoption).
>
> Approach project PSC individually also works.
>
> There is a PDF on osgeo GitHub on how to do this kind of thing ...

Thanks Jody!

Have you got a link to this PDF?

Nyall

>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 5:36 PM Nyall Dawson <nyall.daw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 23:38, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > This discussion starts to get into the value, it is a lot of work to 
>> > gather up these original or alternate sources ... both for end users 
>> > migrating to open source, and for OSGeo projects to do on their own.
>> >
>> > I think this would be a great group project.
>>
>> Brett has recently compiled a summary of these fonts and symbols here:
>> https://github.com/Saijin-Naib/ESRI-Fonts-Cheat-Sheets
>>
>> What I think we should aim for is an equivalent of the "Liberation"
>> font package, which implements freely licensed equivalents of the
>> standard Windows font packages (Arial, Times New Roman, etc), with
>> identical font metrics and similar styling so that they can be used
>> effectively as a drop-in replacement.
>>
>> What would be the next step to move forward with this and approach
>> osgeo for funding?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Nyall
>>
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 3:44 AM Brad Hards <br...@frogmouth.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have no idea what is in the map fonts (or even what an ESRI map font 
>> >> is), but if you're looking for the symbology for DNC and VMAP, (which 
>> >> sound vaguely like: ESRI NIMA DNC LN, ESRI NIMA DNC PT, ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 
>> >> LN, ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 PT) its probably based on some variant of the NGA 
>> >> GeoSym stuff - MIL-HDBK-857A and MIL-DTL-89045/A
>> >>
>> >> If you're prepared to deal with converting CGM to whatever that font 
>> >> thing is, you can download the definitions from the NGA GWG Portrayal 
>> >> Working Group at https://gwg.nga.mil/pfg_documents.php (expect a cert 
>> >> warning)
>> >>
>> >> The ESRI Mil2525C Modifiers and some of those MilSym / MilMod things 
>> >> might be MIL-STD-2525 (aka STANAG APP-6) symbology. Not usually treated 
>> >> as a font though....
>> >>
>> >> Brad
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> On Behalf Of Nyall Dawson
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 3:46 PM
>> >> To: Even Rouault <even.roua...@spatialys.com>
>> >> Cc: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 01:13, Even Rouault <even.roua...@spatialys.com> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > for my understanding, and hopefully help others, I assume the issue is 
>> >> > that you have a style definition where there are tuples of 
>> >> > (font_identifier, symbol_identifier_in_the_font) to define the styling 
>> >> > of layers with point geometries, right ?
>> >>
>> >> Partially, but the "bigger picture" is that there's just no alternative 
>> >> freely available version of many of these symbol graphics themselves. 
>> >> That's the blocker that I've encountered.
>> >>
>> >> > If that's only the former, then assuming there would be N open fonts 
>> >> > already covering the whole set of ESRI symbology fonts (unlikely), one 
>> >> > could possibly create a mapping between each tuple of (ESRI_font_id, 
>> >> > ESRI_symbol_id) to (OPEN_font_id, OPEN_symbol_id). If the later, then 
>> >> > you need a complete replacement for each proprietary font.
>> >>
>> >> It's the later.
>> >>
>> >> > How many symbols / fonts are we discussing about ?
>> >>
>> >> There's about 73 fonts total (see list below, may not be complete), which 
>> >> average about 100 icons apiece.
>> >>
>> >> ESRI AMFM Electric
>> >> ESRI AMFM Gas
>> >> ESRI AMFM Sewer
>> >> ESRI AMFM Water
>> >> ESRI ArcPad
>> >> ESRI Arrowhead
>> >> ESRI Business
>> >> ESRI Cartography
>> >> ESRI Caves 1
>> >> ESRI Caves 2
>> >> ESRI Caves 3
>> >> ESRI Climate & Precipitation
>> >> ESRI Commodities
>> >> ESRI Conservation
>> >> ESRI Crime Analysis
>> >> ESRI Default Marker
>> >> ESRI Dimensioning
>> >> ESRI Elements
>> >> ESRI Enviro Hazard Analysis
>> >> ESRI Enviro Hazard Incident
>> >> ESRI Enviro Hazard Sites
>> >> ESRI Environmental & Icons
>> >> ESRI ERS Infrastructures S1
>> >> ESRI ERS Operations S1
>> >> ESRI Fire Incident NFPA
>> >> ESRI Geology AGSO 1
>> >> ESRI Geology
>> >> ESRI Geology USGS 95-525
>> >> ESRI Geometric Symbols
>> >> ESRI Hazardous Materials
>> >> ESRI Hydrants
>> >> ESRI IGL Font16
>> >> ESRI IGL Font20
>> >> ESRI IGL Font21
>> >> ESRI IGL Font22
>> >> ESRI IGL Font23
>> >> ESRI IGL Font24
>> >> ESRI IGL Font25
>> >> ESRI Meteorological 01
>> >> ESRI Mil2525C Modifiers
>> >> ESRI MilMod 01
>> >> ESRI MilMod 02
>> >> ESRI MilRed 01
>> >> ESRI MilSym 01
>> >> ESRI MilSym 02
>> >> ESRI MilSym 03
>> >> ESRI MilSym 04
>> >> ESRI MilSym 05
>> >> ESRI NIMA City Graphic LN
>> >> ESRI NIMA City Graphic PT
>> >> ESRI NIMA DNC LN
>> >> ESRI NIMA DNC PT
>> >> ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 LN
>> >> ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 PT
>> >> ESRI North
>> >> ESRI Oil, Gas, & Water
>> >> ESRI Ordnance Survey
>> >> ESRI Pipeline US 1
>> >> ESRI Public1
>> >> ESRI SDS 1.95 1
>> >> ESRI SDS 1.95 2
>> >> ESRI SDS 2.00 1
>> >> ESRI SDS 2.00 2
>> >> ESRI Shields
>> >> ESRI Surveyor
>> >> ESRI Telecom
>> >> ESRI Transportation & Civic
>> >> ESRI US Forestry 1
>> >> ESRI US Forestry 2
>> >> ESRI US MUTCD 1
>> >> ESRI US MUTCD 2
>> >> ESRI US MUTCD 3
>> >> ESRI Weather
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