I think due to liability issues, and the potential for immediate lockout, we need at least find out how much it would cost to get all necessary permits, etc.
As for the extension cords which are being used right now: is it using extension cords that's an issue, or that they're on the floor? It wouldn't be hard to lift them off the ground and run them along the walls (on hooks or something). On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jay Smith <jayvsm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Regardless of the rules debate, I would like to see a "100% legit, > everything up to code and safe" quote for how much it will cost to get this > place finished properly. Preferably before we sign a new lease. Is there > any way we can help expedite this process? > > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Michael Loney <maikerulo...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> The great joy of rules in its all or nothing, if we get caught breaking >> the rules the directors are liable and SkullSpace will disappear overnight. >> If we get locked out for any reason we still have to pay rent, gas and >> power even thought we can't use the space. No space = large drop in members >> and then we default on the bills and start talking about insurance payouts >> to cover us legally. >> >> I am not sure why, but some of the members don't think the rules apply to >> us. All of the costs of operating a business are the same if we opened a >> storage area or a hair salon. We need to do the due diligence and find out >> what the real costs are. >> >> We will see how far we need to go to be legal but knowingly ignoring the >> rules is a very bad idea if we want the space to survive. >> >> **note** I know that I personally have done things at the space that are >> against the rules, I have since stopped as not to make the space liable for >> any future problems. >> >> The only time the normal rules do not apply is if we rented a barn in a >> rural area but the bus will not go there. >> >> >> >> G Mike >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:15 AM, chris kluka <asd...@asdlkf.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> http://winnipeg.kijiji.ca/c-real-estate-commercial-office-space-Office-Retail-Warehouse-W0QQAdIdZ407259464 >>> >>> >>> ~2550 square foot lease on Erin St. between Ellice and st. Mathews. >>> $7.50/sq ft/anum = $1593.75 per month. >>> >>> Includes 3 parking stalls; additional parking on the street. >>> >>> Add states "heavy duty power" but does not mention if service is >>> included. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Michael Loney >>> <maikerulo...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> From the city of Winnipeg Occupancy loads PDF @ >>>> Linky<http://www.winnipeg.ca/ppd/pdf_files/OccLoads.pdf> >>>> ... >>>> >>>> "The Manitoba Fire Code requires an occupant load placard to be posted >>>> in all assembly occupancies where the occupant load exceeds 60 persons." >>>> >>>> So we do not nee to publicly have one shown but there is no mention of >>>> the requirement to have the permit itself. >>>> >>>> When we are getting the electrical we can always apply for the >>>> occupancy permit at the same time. >>>> >>>> G Mike >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Mark Jenkins <m...@parit.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> > Does this come back to us not having a residency permit? >>>>> >>>>>> Occupancy permit. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Not directly, as a property owner could hire an electrician to work on >>>>> a vacant space and just obtain a permit for the work being done. >>>>> >>>>> Occupancy permits are applied for and held by actual occupants. >>>>> >>>>> But if electrical work led to trouble over lack of work permit, then >>>>> it could also lead to trouble over lack of occupancy permit, as it's >>>>> obvious to anyone showing up that the space is occupied. >>>>> >>>>> And then there's the reverse -- if we imagine that any electrician >>>>> we're dealing with is going to wall to pull a work permit to make >>>>> electrical changes, then there's always the chance someone at the city >>>>> ends >>>>> up asking if the space is or will be occupied before or after the work and >>>>> if the occupants have an occupancy permit. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>>>> Help: >>>>> http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/**index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss<http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss> >>>>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/**group/skullspace-discuss-** >>>>> archive/ <https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >
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