Associate membership ($15/month) is a way to support Skullspace without
the cost, rights, and responsibilities of full membership. Associate
members will be offered special discounts on some events admissions and
other Skullspace services and access to some events and services which
are available to associate and full members only.

Another thing worth repeating is that this idea of Associate Membership isn't a "hard policy" requiring approval by the members as a bylaw change. (unlike student membership).

It's a marketing program to turn some guests into repeat donor guests, not a form of real membership with any rights and responsibilities.

As such, I'm going to risk "asking for forgiveness" after the fact on this one and just put it live on the wiki on October 30 after our meeting without taking any vote on the matter. (more ideas like this should get done that way instead of being pitched "why don't we..." at everyone)

At that point it will be up to folks who run events and services to make it more than just wiki markup by actually by giving associates different treatment from other guests and it will be up to advocates of this idea to actually sign associates up for the appropriate PAD and/or track envelopes of cash/cheuqes dropped off in the donation box.

Perhaps someone should step up and be the /associate member registrar/ instead of dumping it on Jay.

As VM server admin, I will permit associates to have VM server access if there is a maintained registry of these people I can rely on for that.

I see this whole idea as being outside the scope of the bylaws and don't want to cheapen real membership by giving it any kind of recognition under the bylaws. Perhaps using the "M" word at all carries this risk of conflicting with the bylaws. If I hear enough objections along these lines, I will call this donor-marketting program "associate of Skullspace" instead of "associate membership".

Some folks were talking about having associate members sign on to the members agreement. In the spirit of not giving this any formal recognition, I think that's a bad idea -- if we're not granting any real rights so let's not ask these folks to carry responsibilities as per the member agreement either -- lets put emphasis on associates being *guests* who get a few event and service perks and not let them feel they're a form of member.

Even though this whole thing is in the realm of soft-policy, I appreciate that it could end up cheapening the value of membership anyway, even without the "M" word included. As such, in the spirit of "asking for forgiveness later", I will withdraw this from the wiki (or not put it there to begin with) if some kind of "motion of condemnation" receives majority support at a meeting.

So, like first Fridays, "it's on!"

Mark

p.s.

I wrote
> Full members are responsible for not turning associate members and
> other guests the into defacto full members with respect to access by
> sponsoring their access too frequently, *especially* for the purpose
> of simply hanging around or informal gaming. (its best if guests are
> brought in for special events or project work).

This what goes through my head when I hear "casual member". Being able to hang out any time and enjoy everybody else's presence is actually one of the best privileges that comes with membership. We should never give that away.

I have gratuitously stolen the "associate" word as meaning "has no real right, just hands over money and feels good" from the FSF:
http://www.fsf.org/associate/
http://www.fsf.org/associate/benefits

They don't even have real "members" to offset the associates, their board is fully in-charge and re-appoints itself under the glow of RMS's benevolent dictatorship-saint in the church of emacs halo.

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