We're still in discussions with AW on the matter. I really can't speculate
either way at this point.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Roswyne <rosw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You're probably right.  Either it's worth it to us to stay, or it isn't.
> Day to day operations won't change just 'cause AW holds the lease instead
> of us.
>
> But if we leave, will AW write off our share of the old utility bills, or
> will they still want to be paid back?
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote:
>
>> I think that in terms of the discussion we're past the point of asking
>> if we still have a lease or not. If we decide to leave, it appears,
>> from previous public discussion that AssentWorks will accomodate us
>> and not kick us out.
>>
>> On 24 October 2012 15:41, Michael Kozakewich
>>  <mkozakew...@icosidodecahedron.com> wrote:
>> > So here's a question: Do we still have our lease? I guess the point was
>> > brought up that the owners don't think an 'agreement to lease' is
>> legally
>> > binding.
>> >
>> > Logically and legally, it would make sense if they want us to cancel our
>> > current lease (I assume we can if all parties involved sign the proper
>> > documents), but proactively went ahead and also drew up the new lease.
>> That
>> > lease wouldn't be legal until we cancelled the one we have now. If we
>> don't,
>> > the legal requirement would be that they activate the six-month clause,
>> and
>> > then continue with the new leasing after that.
>> >
>> > That would be the logical way, but of course that doesn't mean it's what
>> > they did. Is there any way to get verification?
>> >
>> > Needless to say, if we wanted to stay here we'd have to fulfil any
>> > requirements our landlords have of us, including paying old bills and
>> > putting in metering. Nothing to do with legality, there. We could
>> leave, and
>> > we'd probably get six months to do so. (By the end of March.)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message----- From: Roswyne
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 7:57 AM
>> > To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca
>> > Subject: [SkullSpace-Discuss] SkSp has no lease
>> >
>> > Based on the messages going back and forth last night, it seems that a
>> very
>> > important point has been missed.
>> >
>> > Skullspace no longer has a lease for the third floor. The landlord has
>> > signed a new lease with AssentWorks.
>> >
>> > I don't think this is legal, but they did it anyway. AssentWorks
>> accepted
>> > their "request" to pay utility bills dating back to when we first moved
>> in.
>> >
>> >
>> > This is reality, guys. We could be kicked out immediately if we do not
>> come
>> > to an understanding with AssentWorks.
>> >
>> >
>> > We've dragged our asses all summer and fall - renovations fizzled and
>> junk
>> > has accumulated, making much of the space unusable. Lease problems were
>> > assumed by all to be less urgent than they were.
>> >
>> > We can regroup and recover. But we need enough people to care. Please
>> > consider our situation, the proposals that have been presented, and
>> show up
>> > next week to vote!
>> >
>> >
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