Siu, I appreciate your concern and volunteering to cover some preliminary legal costs. I think I need to stress again that we're beyond the details of the legality of the lease and we're now focused on whether we stay and reduce our footprint, or we find a new space. Your money would be much better spent on helping out with upcoming electrical costs - no matter where we end up there will be these costs.
~Justin On 25 October 2012 09:34, Courtney Lofchick <[email protected]> wrote: > If they want of request AW pay back electrical in a future contract then it > is not illegal. Especially if they agree to it. We don't have to pay it > unless we stay. The landlord is not imposing that on us, AW is. > Claiming we don't have a lease is different. We have one, but it's not > relevant. They can give us 6 months if they want to. > You don't need to get a lawyer to determine if the landlord is > untrustworthy. A quick look at court records will show their track record. > That being said if you want to pay for a lawyer please do so but perhaps it > would be better put to helping us come to an agreement with AW if we stay. > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> You can't change a contract once it's signed - the whole point of signing >> it is to confirm and finalize what the terms are. It's illegal for them to >> insist on anything that wasn't covered in the contract. >> >> As far as I can tell, they're sticking to their story that we never had a >> contract, which is interesting to say the least. They certainly collected >> rent in accordance with it. >> >> Is there a particular reason that the board doesn't want a lawyer to see >> the contracts? I understand it's an extra expense, but I've already offered >> to cover that. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> They're not illegal. There's nothing stopping them from saying "your new >>> lease requires you to pay us $6000 immediately". The only sketchy thing >>> is signing a second lease while the first is in effect, but that isn't >>> harming us in any way so I'm not worried. >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> On 2012-10-25 09:12, Roswyne wrote: >>> > To follow up on this - I think it makes a significant difference >>> > whether or >>> > not their actions have been illegal. If they've been legal, then we >>> > can >>> > continue to deal with them... but if they've violated their contracts >>> > with >>> > us, then we can't trust them at all. >>> > >>> > If I can get copies of our two leases, I'll take them to a lawyer for >>> > review *at my own expense*. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > > My experience says that people who behave unfairly do so >>> > > consistently, and >>> > > escalate until you stop giving in to them. >>> > > >>> > > We all know how this has continuously gotten worse as its progressed. >>> > > Why >>> > > give them another chance to shock us? >>> > > >>> > > Moving time and costs will depend on what we take with us, based on >>> > > the >>> > > size of the new place and what people consider important. For >>> > > example, if >>> > > we don't have room for six couches, we won't take them all. And >>> > > Assentworks >>> > > might be happy to inheirit the ones we leave. >>> > > >>> > > Similarly, people can take back any "lent" items and personal >>> > > projects. >>> > > Tables can be folded down, and benches and shelves can be >>> > > disassembled. >>> > > >>> > > We shouldn't over plan the new location. Its easy to make plans - one >>> > > person can do that alone. But it takes a team to build everything. >>> > > >>> > > We'll do better to embrace a flexible, adaptive floor layout, and let >>> > > it >>> > > grow based on need/usage. >>> > > >>> > > >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) >>> >>> iEYEARECAAYFAlCJSWwACgkQ2t2zxlt4g/QnHQCfa1Wt0Q/u8EY8Iv0ea2AhlF+s >>> EssAnA3pOsfSM2dxn3cSbjKY6M00aVIk >>> =/z5o >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ _______________________________________________ SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
