Don't encourage the lawyer option...

On 25 October 2012 17:01, Mark Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 10/25/12 15:10, Roswyne wrote:
>>
>> I would personally like to get a lawyer's opinion.  However, I don't
>> have copies of the leases, which I would need to get from the board.
>
>
> Could you also ask how much the lawyer thinks we would get in damages to
> compensate us for our losses + punative damanges and what the lawyers would
> want to take from that? (at least 33%?)
>
> You'll be posing three hypotheticals:
>  * If action is taken against us (such as doors locked prematurely) are we
> in a position to sue?
>  * What's our chances of winning?
>  * What kind of cival damanges (compensation for losses and punative) would
> be typical to recieve after a ruling in our favour?
>
> Sui, when you get your hands on the text, I would recommend reading closely
> any clauses that set out and limit what uses we could make use of the space
> for -- as that's likely to be the primary line of counter attack that they'd
> use, they'd claim we violated the lease by using the space in ways the lease
> said we were not supposed to.
>
> And so with that we're going to have to think back about how we used the
> space and also how *Assent Works* used the space to be sure there weren't
> use-related breaches -- there isn't a leg to stand on if either of us broke
> what it said regarding use.
>
> Any lawyer is going to ask questions about that in a consult.
>
> Specifically, if Assent Works as our co-tennant did something that breached
> the lease then we wouldn't be able to stop the landlord from saying the
> lease is breached for that reason -- we would only be able to go after
> Assent Works for breaking the partnership formed with us by signing as
> co-tennants with us, and we'd have to be able to show they did those things
> without our support or consent.
>
> Any scenario involving going after Assent Works for their role in this is a
> nuclear option that I don't even think you'll want to consider.
>
> A lawyer may also be interested in about other ways in which we may have
> breached the lease, so look at the text and try to imagine if particular
> terms were violated.
>
> If in reading the lease you find something that you think we may have
> breeched, report it directly to the board.
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>
> One of the most sad things about the large back pile of utility bills being
> thrown at Assent Works and Skullspace is that they're only subtracting the
> Cr8tory amounts and $1000 annual common area credit -- there's no
> subtraction for the electricity use they thought we were going to use for
> our purposes. Surely they didn't imagine zero -- even storage places have to
> have the (ineffecient) lights on sometimes.
>
> Ditto for the new lease proposed, there's no subtraction for what they
> thought before we were going to use for our own purposes, so the net effect
> even in *their* own terms now is a rent increase.
>
>
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