On 10/24/12 15:58, Justin Lacko wrote:
On 24 October 2012 15:54, Jay Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
I abstain, and I truly abstain, because this informal vote is just a stunt
to demonstrate a need for a preferential ballot. At the same time, I'd
rather people come to next week's meeting armed with facts, not popular
opinion polls.
This is a very good point. But I think that in any organisation, much
like a general election, you'll have people who just don't care enough
to read that deep into it and come armed with facts. That's when
discussions like this may come into play. Everyone has their opinions
and discuss@ is fair game to discuss them and see who supports what.
Yep, indeed, polls are a standard tactic of politics -- if there's a
voting system that encourages strategic voting (such as plurality votes)
a poll like this can help arm people with key info they need to make
their decisions to obtain outcomes they prefer over outcomes they don't
prefer.
I don't want to throw my vote away.
Its not enough to fully understand the the implications of the options
to choose amoung, you have to understand where everyone else is at to
have a sense of what can even win.
If a bad system is selected and there's no pre-polling, we may just have
to have a good many small group discussions prior to the meeting to
cluster ourselves, comprimise, and strategize -- this happens at some
political party leadership conventions [the ones where the result isn't
pre-ordained because a majority of delegates are coming for one option]
where they use multiple rounds of preferential ballots that are subject
to burrying stratagies -- there ends up being coalitions formed around
"anything but X".
(I'd prefer a single round preferential ballot system like Debian uses
that has technical elements to discourage strategic voting)
Mark
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