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On 2012-10-31 12:20, Mark Jenkins wrote:
> > Most people want to move - even with AW being the new leasee, we have
> > no trust in the building owners not trying to screw us again by
> > ignoring contracts/the law.
> 
> I think you've missed a key detail -- AW doesn't appear to have much 
> faith either as they asked for an exit clause in this new lease.
> (shit, we should have noticed that detail sooner, we had a copy last week)
Honestly, it's that detail that got me on board with wanting to leave.
Up till we found out about that, I still wanted to make it work. But the
thought that we may be left high and dry wasn't one I wanted to
consider.

Ron

> 
> As far as I'm concerned, being here with any exit clause, regardless of 
> stated intents by landlord or tennant to use such clauses or not is a no 
> go -- it gives parties the ability to demand a new deal too easilly 
> instead of honouring the existing one.
> 
> > (Lots of FUD about this - they could call
> > in question any of a number of permits, they hire criminals every
> > morning in the basement, etc. We have no leverage and they have all of
> > it.)
> 
> I fully agree. The only real gun is the exit clause.
> 
> It would be extreme stupidity for a landlord to just suddenly lock doors 
> (prompting possible legal action) or initiate their own legal action 
> claiming violation of lease when they can just use the exit clause. The 
> former options are full of financial risk and uncertainty, the later 
> less so.
> 
> Locking the doors or initiating legal action only makes sense for a 
> landlord dealing with a tennant who's conduct is so bad that the risks 
> of keeping them over the exit period are worse then the risks of trying 
> to boot them faster.
> 
> The amount that six more months of electrical here would of entailed 
> would have been nothing compared court costs those useless nuclear 
> options would have entailed.
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