I call dibs on the bed.

Nathan T. Wild
Ralph Brown Community Centre Inc.

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From: Ron <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:55:41 
To: <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Summary of last night's meeting -- why
        leave

I found the perfect place. It's fairly central - just off Arlington -
already furnished, is sheltered from the elements, and already has a tv!

The picture is attached.

We can vote on this location as an alternative to The Justin Plan.

Ron

On 2012-10-31 13:30, Colin Stanners wrote:
> About a year ago, when there was a big question if we would be able to
> stay at Adelaide, I went around a few winnipeg sites and took some
> pictures for a presentation to be called "Skullspace 2.0: the
> welcoming world under Winnipeg's bridges". Guess I'll need to dig it
> out now.
> 
> 
> On 10/31/12, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On 2012-10-31 12:20, Mark Jenkins wrote:
> >> > Most people want to move - even with AW being the new leasee, we have
> >> > no trust in the building owners not trying to screw us again by
> >> > ignoring contracts/the law.
> >>
> >> I think you've missed a key detail -- AW doesn't appear to have much
> >> faith either as they asked for an exit clause in this new lease.
> >> (shit, we should have noticed that detail sooner, we had a copy last
> >> week)
> > Honestly, it's that detail that got me on board with wanting to leave.
> > Up till we found out about that, I still wanted to make it work. But the
> > thought that we may be left high and dry wasn't one I wanted to
> > consider.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >>
> >> As far as I'm concerned, being here with any exit clause, regardless of
> >> stated intents by landlord or tennant to use such clauses or not is a no
> >> go -- it gives parties the ability to demand a new deal too easilly
> >> instead of honouring the existing one.
> >>
> >> > (Lots of FUD about this - they could call
> >> > in question any of a number of permits, they hire criminals every
> >> > morning in the basement, etc. We have no leverage and they have all of
> >> > it.)
> >>
> >> I fully agree. The only real gun is the exit clause.
> >>
> >> It would be extreme stupidity for a landlord to just suddenly lock doors
> >> (prompting possible legal action) or initiate their own legal action
> >> claiming violation of lease when they can just use the exit clause. The
> >> former options are full of financial risk and uncertainty, the later
> >> less so.
> >>
> >> Locking the doors or initiating legal action only makes sense for a
> >> landlord dealing with a tennant who's conduct is so bad that the risks
> >> of keeping them over the exit period are worse then the risks of trying
> >> to boot them faster.
> >>
> >> The amount that six more months of electrical here would of entailed
> >> would have been nothing compared court costs those useless nuclear
> >> options would have entailed.
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