FIRST!!!11!!!!! On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Oh yeah, at some point I promised I'd put up a forum for stuff that > doesn't suit the wiki or mailing list. I'll still do it, promise! :) > > Ron > > On 2012-10-31 14:01, Michael Kozakewich wrote: > > You know, I was wondering why we were all concerned about having to leave > > with three months' notice, and then talking giving them three months' > notice > > right away. > > It's all moot now, anyway. > > > > What I'd like to do is find a collection of individual things we do to > gain > > money, and things we're thinking of doing. For example, we could offer > tiny > > cubicles for $100/month for people who want to work and store stuff. > > (Each 5 ft. x 4 ft. of floor area should costs us about $20-$25 per > month. > > We could charge more for sound-proofing or a lock.) > > I'd like some historical figures published: the drink money box, what we > > know about our electrical usage, donations following certain events, > > membership levels, and so on. > > > > From the very basic talk we had over the possibilities of moving into the > > space Justin found, we discovered we could do almost nothing extra and > still > > survive there for two years. We should make an outline of what we need to > > do, pessimistically, to cover the remaining costs. We're going to be > active > > at conventions, and we're going to be inviting user groups. > > > > The discussion list can be really weird for these kinds of discussions, > > because it can be a pain to sort through things. The wiki is annoying > > because you can't delete old topics, but it still works. We might as well > > keep the data on a Strikeforce page for easy reference. Organizational > > stuff, y'know? > > I threw the info into > http://skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Strikeforce:Space > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ron > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:25 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Summary of last night's meeting -- > > whyleave > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 2012-10-31 12:20, Mark Jenkins wrote: > > > > Most people want to move - even with AW being the new leasee, we have > > > > no trust in the building owners not trying to screw us again by > > > > ignoring contracts/the law. > > > > > > I think you've missed a key detail -- AW doesn't appear to have much > > > faith either as they asked for an exit clause in this new lease. > > > (shit, we should have noticed that detail sooner, we had a copy last > week) > > Honestly, it's that detail that got me on board with wanting to leave. > > Up till we found out about that, I still wanted to make it work. But the > > thought that we may be left high and dry wasn't one I wanted to > > consider. > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned, being here with any exit clause, regardless of > > > stated intents by landlord or tennant to use such clauses or not is a > no > > > go -- it gives parties the ability to demand a new deal too easilly > > > instead of honouring the existing one. > > > > > > > (Lots of FUD about this - they could call > > > > in question any of a number of permits, they hire criminals every > > > > morning in the basement, etc. We have no leverage and they have all > of > > > > it.) > > > > > > I fully agree. The only real gun is the exit clause. > > > > > > It would be extreme stupidity for a landlord to just suddenly lock > doors > > > (prompting possible legal action) or initiate their own legal action > > > claiming violation of lease when they can just use the exit clause. The > > > former options are full of financial risk and uncertainty, the later > > > less so. > > > > > > Locking the doors or initiating legal action only makes sense for a > > > landlord dealing with a tennant who's conduct is so bad that the risks > > > of keeping them over the exit period are worse then the risks of trying > > > to boot them faster. > > > > > > The amount that six more months of electrical here would of entailed > > > would have been nothing compared court costs those useless nuclear > > > options would have entailed. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAlCRXyIACgkQ2t2zxlt4g/TdNACfX00IsSwWw2CtncbdMrjNKA06 > > pXUAn2BVLaAPtdAkmhj2Zv929chRof1t > > =iUjf > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAlCRd5YACgkQ2t2zxlt4g/QCxwCeO9b7fZ6/gUf1Ym0uHHw9VL2W > mSUAn30iXFW9e4iYZoi/ud5Eeur0VQXD > =gCl5 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >
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