You probably shouldn't use that floor plan as I just drew a rectangle
and have no dimensions at all. :P
However, I'll upload that and the slides tonight.

On 1 November 2012 14:36, Michael Kozakewich
<mkozakew...@icosidodecahedron.com> wrote:
> We're going to have to re-jigger the floor plan a little, because it IS
> still big and there's a lot we can do with it.
>
> Has anyone talked about office space for members? Ron said he'd be willing
> to pay for a little space somewhere where he can work. I was thinking we
> could design little 5'x4' cubicles or something, for $100/month, which we
> could also give to members who need additional storage space.
>
> Justin, can you upload the floor-plan you got? We can take a look at what
> works where.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Justin Lacko
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:21 PM
> To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca
> Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] cashflow post move, yellow dog location,
> the gap and more
>
>
> We're a not-for-profit and I wouldn't call this reselling. These
> aren't commercial servers - they're members' servers and the cost is
> going to help offset power. These are the same servers we're hosting
> right now, for the most part. You seem to be thinking in terms of some
> kind of official reseller plan - I'm thinking member-based machines
> that are already operating.
>
> Do we require walls for a server room? Can we not stand up two racks
> against the wall in a low-traffic area? Do we not already have UPSes
> that you have been testing out?
>
> On 1 November 2012 14:16, Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Considering extra expenses, that's more like $400-500 per month away
>> from breaking even. I don't like the financials of this move, we
>> should try to always assume worst-case.
>>
>> Also I'm not sure about charging for server space - we have no SLAs,
>> no walls for our server room there, heck you didn't even put a server
>> room on the plans. Also paid server space should have redundant
>> internet and more UPSes, neither of which we have, and I'm not sure
>> VOI will be happy about us reselling our free service for money - they
>> seemed to indicate it was no-SLA/hobbyist/not for profit before.
>>
>>
>> On 11/1/12, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> $80 pledge - 1 member
>>> $60 pledge - 14 members
>>> $50 pledge - 6 members
>>> $40 pledge - 2 members
>>>
>>> Total: $1300 from 22 members
>>> 1 member was undecided
>>> 19 members still need to be contacted.
>>>
>>> 1 member is willing to relocate his servers to our space and pay $100/mo.
>>>
>>> Other considerations from the meeting:
>>> Server space: $10/mo.
>>> Classroom rental: $50/event
>>> Power estimate: $300/mo.
>>>
>>> Assume our rent is $2100/mo., add power = $2400/mo.
>>> Assume remaining 19 members only pay $40/mo. = $760/mo.
>>>
>>> $1300 + $760 + $100 + $30 (estimate 3 servers being hosted) = $2190/mo.
>>>
>>> Therefore, we are actually $210 away from breaking even. ***However,
>>> this doesn't include the cost of insurance, which I believe Courtney
>>> will look into to see if the price would be changing.***
>>>
>>> Now don't forget that we have ~$8000 in our bank. This can serve as
>>> the source of our discretionary spending month-to-month. I would put a
>>> limit of $400/mo. or something similar from these funds.
>>>
>>> I'm confident that we can talk to the remaining 19 members and ask if
>>> they are willing to pay more than $40/mo. to help us out with this.
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