On 08/10/13 06:18 PM, Jim MacKenzie wrote:
This is easily one of the coolest things I've seen skullspace do for a
while.

Ahh, wait and hope for more screw-ups to give us an excuse to have something cool to work hard at reversing those mistakes. :)

Don't get too excited, this project has major potential for fall off in interest. There's a sense of progress you can get from building an increasingly sophisticated cracking apparatus, but no sense of progress on the actual end product as other projects have.

You can't 25% or 50% crack an AES key and say, "hey, look at that great progress". Every run but the last one will end in failure. I think I've already gone through earlier today the search space Ian considers likely and we're now into the "possible, but not likely".

As I said, this could be an on again, off again project that lives for awhile, potential folklore material and tour of space stop (once it becomes a treasure hunt poster).

If I understand correctly there's no issues with cracking your own
passwords?

Password.

We sure won't be the first folks to try and rescue their own mis-remembered encryption passphrase, both in bitcoinland and outside of it. This is as white-hat an operation as you can get.

While I'm posting, here's a password cracking story from Ars today:
http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/how-the-bible-and-youtube-are-fueling-the-next-frontier-of-password-cracking/

Our wrench crew may see that and ask, "Ian, are you sure your passphrase didn't quote the bible? ". (he's certain)

Or the Silk Road Charter?
http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1d5f0q/silk_road_charter/
(better check all variations of that one :P )

And I didn't write about bounties. Anyone that has the ciphertext and password interview information will be in a position to solve it, and once you solve it, it is very easy to put the found private key to use and take all the funds. We would never know who among those in the know did so.

I could administer some BS where folks have to submit their cracking code to me for me to go off and run on whatever infrastructure and have it so only Ian and I have the ciphertext for that.

But, I won't be doing that.

Once I make it available, I'm going to trust that members will keep the ciphertext in the Skullspace family (including not posting it on this open public mailing list or IRC).

As such, I'm willing to say that whoever of us finds the private key can decide whatever it is they want to give to Skullspace out of the proceeds, what they want to keep, and how much to share with others who have helped along the way. There's no pretending that they don't have that power to decide for themselves, so I'm just going to acknowledge that power and say do what you think is right.


Mark
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