On 13-11-05 01:12 AM, Ken DeWitt wrote:

I am asking this question to get a goos debate going and find out what makes one better then the other. As well for beginner starting place for new memebers to find resources and please don't say google it. Why I say that because I would like to see what book or site or other resource really got you into your choosen unix platform.


I'm going to be trite, but in a way that might actually be useful: ask your question at MUUG instead of SkSp. We have mailing lists, you don't have to come to the meeting. (We also don't bite. Not even if you ask.)

What makes freebsd better then debian or the other way around what makes debian better then freebsd? Or what is your favorite unix platform? Why do you like? And what resources besides google would you recommand to beginniers or what resource did you use to teach yourself about that unix platform?

Short answer:

FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD are, truly, UNIX. They build directly upon the 50-year legacy and they continue those traditions. There's a lot of "sober second thought" before anyone gets to do deprecate anything - the old way should always work, even if there's a newer, better way available.

Linux is a actually a UNIX-like operating system that does not include any code from the "original" UNIX. (It's sufficiently compatible that it may be legally called UNIX now, however.) The Linux community does not, as a rule, see nearly as much value in tradition, and places much more value on changing things to be "better" or more "user friendly", even when that breaks backward compatibility (systemd, anyone?).

The other major difference, which is a largely philosophical difference, is one of licensing.
I'm drastically over-simplifying it here...
Linux is GPL, whereas *BSD uses the "BSD license".
BSD license says "here you go, do whatever you want with it, period".
GPL says "here you go, do whatever you want with it, oh BTW you also must provide the source code to your customer".

FreeBSD and NetBSD are therefore often found embedded in devices where the user never sees the firmware - the vendor does not have to acknowledge their use of the code, does not have to supply it to the end-user, etc., etc., etc. Linux, on the other hand, has market share. And mind-share. And everything-else-share.

I will get started I started with ubuntu because of ease of use and this site http://www.havetheknowhow.com/ because I wanted to make a media server and file server.


A perfect example... doing that with *BSD would have probably taken you easily 10 times longer if you're just getting started. It's not intended to be user-friendly, it's intended to be a *tool* used by a trained/experienced operator. A lot of effort has gone into making Linux easy... often at the expense of making it correct.

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