As far as I can tell, we could potentially differentiate between official
SkSp events, and external events by splitting external events onto a second
calendar: then they could easily be viewed either by Calendar or all at
once.

However, I very much like the idea of a single "front end" accessing the
multiple scheduling systems.

I'd love to sit down with Kevin (and anyone else who's interested). I know
I can't be much help on the programming side, but I make a great guinea pig
basic "user" and can possibly help with the broad design.
On Mar 5, 2014 5:10 PM, "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Every sksp member has or can have access to the google calendar. It's
> trivial to do, and it's not going anywhere. I'm also okay with removing
> all non-sksp events from now on, and only having space events there.
> I've heard that comment a lot.
>
> Also, investigating if we can integrate with meetup, so meetup.com
> events automatically go there, would be handy.
>
> I really don't like the idea of having a third calendar platform, unless
> it's simply aggregating. The 'submit' form can go into an email or
> something to people who can create events, who can manually put them
> into google calendar (or, better yet, it emails them a .ics that we can
> simply 'accept'). In fact, meetup.com sends out .ics files as well, so
> we can possibly solve both problems at once.
>
> Just random thoughts. :)
>
> Ron
>
> On 2014-03-05 13:47, Kevin wrote:
> > Currently the calendar is manually updated on the site itself.
> > However, I don't see it being an issue to say add iCal import/export.
> > Google Calendar also supports iCal import/export.
> >
> > I have another calendar app running which is used to track my work
> > schedule.  It exports an ICS file of the entire calendar.  This ICS
> > file is then added to my KOrganizer(KDE PIM App), and on my Google
> > Calendar account(so I can view it via my S3).
> >
> > So I guess the question now is, would you rather enter in events in
> > this calendar, and have it exported to an ICS which Google Calendar can
> > use.  Or, enter all the events in Google Calendar, and have those
> > synced over using ICS into this other calendar?
> >
> > The Meetup API is fairly simple, and they even have a Python API
> > binding, so I don't see adding meet-up support being a problem.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 5 Mar 2014 13:19:39 -0600
> > Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Kevin, is you app gathering data and presenting it an excellent
> format...
> > > Or can it push data back?
> > >
> > > Ron's point is good - the google calendar does integrate nicely. Our
> > > biggest problems with it so far are just that few people update it,
> and it
> > > includes many offsite events, which can give the impression that the
> space
> > > is busy when it's not.
> > > On Mar 5, 2014 12:40 PM, "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was gonna say the same thing - I had the google calendar synced to
> my
> > > > phone and stuff. I believe there's actually integratoin between
> meetup
> > > > and google calendar (my personal calendar is automatically updated
> with
> > > > meetup.com events). That could be worth looking into.
> > > >
> > > > IMO, if that site grabbed events from google calendar / meetup, and
> > > > didn't require a service that an individual runs, that'd be much
> better
> > > > (as much as I like in-house stuff, managing apps kinda sucks :) )
> > > >
> > > > Ron
> > > >
> > > > On 2014-03-05 06:32, Alexander Trauzzi wrote:
> > > > >    What would be nice is if the app could act as a sync point
> between
> > > > itself,
> > > > >    meetup and google calendar.  Some people use the google calendar
> > > > because
> > > > >    it has nice integration with the rest of their google-ecosystem
> > > > (devices,
> > > > >    alerts, widgets, reminders, etc...).
> > > > >
> > > > >    On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Kevin <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >      Does Meetup have a API we could use?  If so, then I don't see
> it
> > > > being
> > > > >      a problem to add meetup support into this calendar.  So that
> you can
> > > > >      basically add the event once, and it will auto-create a
> meet-up
> > > > event
> > > > >      as well(if requested of course).  That's the best part of DIY
> > > > projects.
> > > > >      On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 16:57:06 -0600
> > > > >      Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >      > You rock! That's so much nicer than the existing google
> calendar.
> > > > Ron
> > > > >      and I
> > > > >      > were trying awhile back to differentiate between events
> held at
> > > > SkSp
> > > > >      and
> > > > >      > those offsite (often held by other groups), but had no luck.
> > > > >      >
> > > > >      > This could potentially replace the google calendar, though
> I think
> > > > >      people
> > > > >      > will probably still want to use meetup, at least for some
> events.
> > > > >      >
> > > > >      > As far as I know, there's no reason any member shouldn't be
> > > > allowed to
> > > > >      > update this, as it's just spreading information, and doesn't
> > > > "reserve"
> > > > >      the
> > > > >      > space for private use. :)
> > > > >      >
> > > > >      >
> > > > >      >
> > > > >      > On Mar 4, 2014 3:29 PM, "Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >      >
> > > > >      > > Hey Brittany and everyone else!
> > > > >      > >
> > > > >      > >   Recall a couple weeks back when we were discussing at a
> > > > general
> > > > >      > > meeting about making it easier to submit and manage
> events for
> > > > the
> > > > >      > > space/community?  Recall that I brought up a web
> application I
> > > > built
> > > > >      > > for another website, and thought it might be a good
> solution to
> > > > >      this?
> > > > >      > > Well, I just put up a demo of this software I built,
> complete
> > > > with
> > > > >      all
> > > > >      > > the events for March pre-entered as test data to see how
> it
> > > > works.
> > > > >      > >
> > > > >      > > http://sksp.iamkevin.ca/
> > > > >      > >
> > > > >      > >   Might I also add that it also has a "mobile version",
> just
> > > > visit
> > > > >      the
> > > > >      > > exact same URL on either an Android or iOS device to see.
> :)
> > > > >      > >
> > > > >      > >   If the space/community would like to utilize this web
> > > > application,
> > > > >      > > I'd be more than happy to open source it and allow people
> to
> > > > >      contribute
> > > > >      > > to make it a better hackerspace/community calendar web
> > > > application.
> > > > >      > >
> > > > >      > >   Some of the notable features are:
> > > > >      > >
> > > > >      > >  * A mobile version
> > > > >      > >  * Filtering events by customly added categories.
> > > > >      > >  * Built using Django 1.6 :)
> > > > >      > >
> > > > >      > > Enjoy the demo!  Currently "Submit Event" will allow
> anybody to
> > > > add
> > > > >      an
> > > > >      > > event, however this functionality can be changed so that
> say a
> > > > >      member
> > > > >      > > of the board receives an email notification to click
> either
> > > > >      "Approve"
> > > > >      > > or "Disapprove".  Remember, it is extendable to whatever
> the
> > > > >      > > space/community needs it to be.
> > > > >      > >
> > > > >      > > On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 13:02:27 -0600
> > > > >      > > Brittany Postnikoff <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >      > >
> > > > >      > > > *Membership Meeting*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *2014 - 03 - 04*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > Meeting: Membership
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > Date: 2014 - 03 -04
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > Place: 2nd floor - 374 Donald Street
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > Time: 18:00 hours
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *1.0  **Call to Order, Introductions, Additions to
> Agenda*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *2.0  **Reading of Minutes*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *3.0 **Follow up*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *No follow up as no tasks were given*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *4.0 **Updates*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *Results of the election*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >   - Duties of the elected individuals
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >     - Brittany Postnikoff
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >     - Alex Weber
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >     - Colin Childs
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >     - Courtney Lofchik
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >     - Ben Bergman
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *Audits*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *Discussing reasons why and their progress*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >   - Membership Audit
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >   - Financial Audit
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >   - Student Audit
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *Calendars*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *The changes in calendar set up and what that means*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *  - *SkullSpace Calendar
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >   - Community Events Calendar
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *Meetup*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *How to use it *
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >   - Adding events
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >   - Deleting events
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >   - Contacting Colin
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *CODE*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *  - *Some people were working on it at space
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >   - Looking for an update
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *External Community Emails*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *What would we like to do with these emails*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *5.0 **Action Items*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *No action items declared*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *6.0 **Decisions Required*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *No decision items declared*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > *7.0 **Adjournment*
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jeremy Hiebert
> > > > >      <[email protected]>
> > > > >      > > wrote:
> > > > >      > > >
> > > > >      > > > > Can you please post agenda as email? Not everyone
> likes
> > > > >      proprietary
> > > > >      > > > > formats.
> > > > >      > > > > On Mar 4, 2014 11:05 AM, "Kevin" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > >      > > > >
> > > > >      > > > >> Hmmm, I think I would have an interesting project
> for the
> > > > >      classroom.
> > > > >      > > > >>
> > > > >      > > > >> How about building a fake sensor bar and purchasing a
> > > > WiiMote
> > > > >      for
> > > > >      > > > >> presentations.  The fake sensor bar would enable the
> > > > presenter
> > > > >      to use
> > > > >      > > > >> the WiiMote just like a basic mouse pointer on the
> screen.
> > > >  The
> > > > >      > > WiiMote
> > > > >      > > > >> can also be used to switch slides in a
> > > > PowerPoint/Keynote/etc
> > > > >      > > > >> presentation.
> > > > >      > > > >>
> > > > >      > > > >> Another way to use it, would be as a cheap digital
> > > > whiteboard!
> > > > >       We
> > > > >      > > > >> could say use a RasberryPi with a bluetooth dongle
> and an
> > > > IR
> > > > >      pen to
> > > > >      > > > >> create a super cheap digital whiteboard for the
> classroom.
> > > > >      > > > >>
> > > > >      > > > >> I mentioned over IRC before that I was personally
> planning
> > > > on
> > > > >      building
> > > > >      > > > >> myself an IR pen, and if we could get a RasberryPi
> either
> > > > >      donoted or
> > > > >      > > > >> purchased for the classroom, we'd be golden.
> > > > >      > > > >>
> > > > >      > > > >> On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 08:46:35 -0600
> > > > >      > > > >> Alexander Trauzzi <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >      > > > >>
> > > > >      > > > >> > If it hasn't been discussed yet, I made a list of
> ideas
> > > > for
> > > > >      the
> > > > >      > > > >> classroom a
> > > > >      > > > >> > while back which is maybe worth
> > > > >      > > valuing/itemizing/planning/disregarding
> > > > >      > > > >> ;)
> > > > >      > > > >> >
> > > > >      > > > >> >
> > > > >      > > > >> > - Alex
> > > > >      > > > >> >
> > > > >      > > > >> >
> > > > >      > > > >> > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Alex Weber
> > > > >      <[email protected]>
> > > > >      > > wrote:
> > > > >      > > > >> >
> > > > >      > > > >> > > Hey everyone,
> > > > >      > > > >> > >
> > > > >      > > > >> > > Today is our weekly meeting. We will be meeting
> at
> > > > >      SkullSpace at
> > > > >      > > 6pm.
> > > > >      > > > >> It
> > > > >      > > > >> > > is an open day, so new people are welcome to
> show up.
> > > > >      > > > >> > >
> > > > >      > > > >> > > Topics to discuss:
> > > > >      > > > >> > > - Financial update (spoiler alert: we're still
> > > > preparing
> > > > >      it)
> > > > >      > > > >> > > - Hallway lights
> > > > >      > > > >> > > - Membership audit
> > > > >      > > > >> > > - Calendar
> > > > >      > > > >> > >
> > > > >      > > > >> > > If you have anything else you'd like to discuss,
> email
> > > > >      > > > >> > > [email protected] or raise it during the
> > > > meeting.
> > > > >      > > > >> > >
> > > > >      > > > >> > > See you all there!
> > > > >      > > > >> > >
> > > > >      > > > >> > > -Alex
> > > > >      > > > >> > >
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