I'd like to thank you for the information, but you should give credit
to slim on your site about mp3beamer where appropriate.  Just because
you had a bad encounter doesn't mean you shouldn't give some credit.

Especially for this: http://mp3beamer.com/ss_java.html

I mean come on, you even left the softsqueeze string in there.

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:58:54 -0800, Michael Robertson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I've seen several questions about MP3beamer (http://www.mp3beamer.com) on
> the list I thought I'd address. 
>  
>  Q: Is MP3beamer just re-badged slimserver? 
>  A: MP3beamer is a suite of products. The server component of MP3beamer does
> share some code with slimserver but it is a different product with some
> unique features. Some of the unique features are ability to stream songs
> with remote iTunes listeners, auto-rip CDs, one click installation and
> setup, control application, UPnP support, and remote syncing. You'll find
> screenshots of most of these at: http://mp3beamer.com/screenshots.html
>  
>  There are actually several pieces of software which make up the MP3beamer
> experience. MP3beamer comes with Linspire, an ultra-easy desktop Linux
> operating system which makes it easy to setup and maintain a MP3beamer
> machine. Linspire installs in about 5-10 minutes and makes MP3beamer
> installation a very quick process via CNR (click-n-run). See:
> http://www.linspire.com/cnr Also included is Lsongs, an easy to use music
> manager for Linux which has been tuned for automatic ripping and seamless
> interaction with MP3beamer. MP3beamer Sync is a super-useful utility which
> allows a remote user to sync their song collection from MP3beamer to a
> remote machine for offline playback. 
>  
>  Q: Is MP3beamer GPL?
>  A: Parts of MP3beamer are GPL. Parts are based on Slimserver. There are
> some parts which are not GPL, specifically code licensed from a 3rd party
> which we do not have the rights to GPL. 
>  
>  Q: Is the source code provided for MP3beamer? 
>  A: Yes, for those parts which are GPLed. MP3beamer was constructed with
> some assistance from Linspire engineers. You can read about Linspire's
> support for open source initiatives here:
> http://info.linspire.com/opensource/
>  
>  Q: Do you charge $79 for the software? Is that permissible under the GPL?
>  A: Yes, it is permissible to sell software under the GPL. Read here for
> more information:
>  http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowMoney
>  
>  MP3tunes sells MP3beamer hardware for $399 and is a full PC, but it's about
> 1/3rd the size of a desktop machine which makes it a good size for a music
> appliance. It runs Linspire and includes access to all the software for
> MP3beamer. If customers wants to install on their own machine, they can
> purchase the MP3beamer suite of software for $79. This includes Linspire
> which is $59 program plus MP3beamer server software, Lsongs and MP3beamer
> Sync so I think it's a good value. There are definitely things that
> MP3beamer can do which slimserver cannot which if those features and one
> click install have value to people makes it a good price. If those features
> don't have value and people don't mind setting up their own machines, then
> it's not a good value. 
>  
>  Q: Will MP3beamer work with Squeezebox?
>  A: Yes. 
>  
>  Q: Why isn't the Squeezebox listed on the MP3beamer site as a recommended
> hardware device?
>  A: There are several reasons. 
>  
>  1) We're targeting MP3beamer as a mass market product. This means we
> emphasize easy of use and low-cost. While definitely not as expandable,
> there are some devices like the Linksys and SMC units which are less then
> half the price of Squeezebox unit ($125 vs $279) which is critical to reach
> the mass market with the music appliance concept. And some units like
> Linksys even have speakers which make them standalone boom boxes which is
> ideal for our target market. 
>  
>  2) We have yet to put up a the complete list of devices. A more
> comprehensive list of devices will go on the MP3beamer web site this week
> with another dozen or so hardware units which should work with MP3beamer. 
>  
>  3) I like Squeezebox. In fact, I bought 8 over Christmas time and gave to
> my executive team as gifts. I called up Slimdevices asking if we could work
> with them on MP3beamer project. My multiple calls and emails were finally
> returned after 3 weeks, but unfortunately it was an absolutely awful meeting
> and I don't use those words lightly. I laid out plans for our product. I was
> very abruptly told that Slimdevices had no interest in working with us. They
> said they were working on other things for next few months which they could
> not tell me about and they had no time for us. When I asked if we could get
> demo units to showcase with MP3beamer at the Desktop Summit trade show (see:
> http://desktopsummit.com), I was told 'No'. I asked for marketing literature
> I could hand out I was also rebuffed. Then I called a couple other companies
> and got a much warmer response and they gladly sent us units to demo and
> literature to pass out. Still at the conference I brought in my own personal
> unit so there would be at least one Squeezebox on display at the show. 
>  
>  I have a history of rooting for and supporting the underdogs against big
> competitors. But in this situation for the reasons cited above, I decided to
> focus our attention on Linksys and SMC units which is probably the best
> decision given our target market and the events outlined above. 
>  
>  -- MR
>  
>  
>  Michael Robertson
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