On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:34 PM, iPhone  wrote:

> Seems I didn't make my point. It is very simple. Why bother with MP3
> files with "side information" files attached to mathematically get to
> lossless when one can just use lossless files? I would bet the farm
> that one can't take an MP3HD file and remake the orginal file from the
> MP3HD file! Which is what my difinition of lossless is.

Well, that hypothesis certainly seems testable:

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C:\Documents and
Settings\Steve\Desktop\mp3HD_Toolkit_for_Windows_2009-03-16>mp3hdencoder.exe
-br 320000 -if test.wav -of mp3HD.mp3
[evaluation copyright notice snipped]

frame 10091

Encoding successful (frame 10091)


Playing time:    263.5 seconds
Encoding time:    22.4 seconds

C:\Documents and
Settings\Steve\Desktop\mp3HD_Toolkit_for_Windows_2009-03-16>mp3hdDecoder.exe
-if mp3hd.mp3 -of mp3hd.wav
[evaluation copyright notice snipped]

Decoding of file: mp3hd.mp3
Average bit rate: 816 kbit/s

Decode frame 10091 in CD-Quality

Decoded mp3hd.mp3



Playing time:    263.5 seconds
Decoding time:    16.1 seconds

C:\Documents and
Settings\Steve\Desktop\mp3HD_Toolkit_for_Windows_2009-03-16>dir *.wav
 Volume in drive C has no label.
 Volume Serial Number is D8DB-EE1B

 Directory of C:\Documents and
Settings\Steve\Desktop\mp3HD_Toolkit_for_Windows_2009-03-16

03/23/2009  06:32 PM        46,489,676 mp3hd.wav
01/20/2009  09:19 PM        46,489,676 test.wav
               2 File(s)     92,979,352 bytes
               0 Dir(s)  23,435,821,056 bytes free

C:\Documents and
Settings\Steve\Desktop\mp3HD_Toolkit_for_Windows_2009-03-16>fc
test.wav mp3HD.wav
Comparing files test.wav and MP3HD.WAV
FC: no differences encountered

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Looks the same to me.

-Steve
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