tomjtx;488133 Wrote: > I have done quite a few blind tests that I have distinguished between > 128 and 192 or higher listening to well recorded classical and jazz. > Most commercial pop recordings are so bad that it doesn't seem to make > much diff. > > It takes an experienced listener with a well trained ear to hear the > difference. > > At 128 the soundstage is flatter, less 3 dimensional. There is less > hall ambience which is so helpful in creating spacial cues. There is > less air around instruments etc. > > 192VBR seems to be the starting point for adequate hi-fi. It is much > harder to hear differences above that rate, although I have been able to > do that on some recordings. > > At 128 it is actually very easy to hear the diffs blind on well > recorded music especially if you are very familiar with the recording. > > One should remember that any listening test is testing the listeners > "ear training" as well as the bit rate. > Not everyone will hear the diffs. However the majority of people can be > trained to hear those diffs, as proven through years of musicians > improving their aural skills in ear training classes.
agree on all your points (in particular the "ear training"...with some basic training to listen for mp3 artifacts, you can train yourself to detect differences on even some of highest bitrate mp3 files). And in fact for lossy files (used on my IPODs) I actually convert to mp3 192 from my FLAC files just because the possibility of artifacts is much reduced at that level. My only point in all these postings is that the initial statement that inferred that just about anyone with just about any song should be able to easily hear differences in 128 vs the original CD is factually wrong and perpetuates certain myths. -- garym ------------------------------------------------------------------------ garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71602 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
