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Question: Is third party plugins/applets important for your Squeezebox
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- I won't buy any more Squeezebox products unless support for third
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- I won't buy any more Squeezebox products unless the third party
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- I use third party plugins but I would still consider buying more
  Squeezebox products without them
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snarlydwarf;504372 Wrote: 
> Well, officially Erland isn't supporting it on SB3 either...
> 
Correct, an API change somewhere and they will stop working on all
devices. Hopefully there won't be any last minute change like this in
the 7.5 release, if there is, I currently have no plans to fix it.

snarlydwarf;504372 Wrote: 
> 
> No doubt that people like Andy, Michael and Ben (is Fletch still
> around?), are very much supportive of "we need 3rd party plugins"...
> Michael and Ben were (are?) 3rd party plugin authors long before they
> got hired and I'm sure they know exactly the frustration that Erland
> has.  (And I'm sure Erland knows this...)
> 
Believe me, they know and I know. 
As I tried to say initially, the developers are the good guys, this
thread is more directed towards the management that direct the
developers regarding what they should prioritize.
I won't quote your whole post but I suspect your description of the
current situation in many ways are pretty close to the reality.

snarlydwarf;504372 Wrote: 
> 
> But there's something about the tone of things around here: I like
> Andy, and Michael and Ben and the rest of the developers, too.  I don't
> want to see them getting prematurely bald or grey, or just pissed off
> and frustrated as they try to put out multiple fires, especially since
> this one isn't their doing.  (It's one thing to have to fix your own
> buggy software, it's another to have political nonsense holding you back
> from saying your mind, or doing what you want... most of us have
> experienced such nonsense at work, and I for one don't want to add to
> their headache.)
> 
I understand what you are saying but I think it's also important that
Logitech realize that the third party contributors are here because it's
fun or interesting, they aren't here because they are payed for it. As
soon as it isn't fun anymore, third party contributors will leave. There
are people that have been very active before but now isn't because it no
longer feels like they are part of the development. After a third party
developer has decided to leave, it's not easy to convince him/her to
start working for free for Logitech again.

I also have to say that I'm not just talking about the last six months,
the situation has been gradually worse during the last two years or so.
The licensing issue is important to get an indication in what direction
Logitech is heading but it's about a lot more than that. I think
pfarrell said it quite nicely, it's all about dedicating man hours to
support third party development. Without these hours, the third party
contributions will slowly disappear and with them I'm pretty sure this
community will soon be transformed into a discussion forum with mostly
beginners and a lot less experienced users.


snarlydwarf;504372 Wrote: 
> 
> IMHO, it would be nice if Andy or Mickey could give Erland, Pippin, and
> other major contributors at least a side-chat. "Look, I know it sucks
> for you right now, and it sucks for us, too.. we're on your side, and
> we're going to keep fighting, but for the moment we have Touch to deal
> with as well, so it may take a bit."
> 
I'm sorry to say that it doesn't help me to hear this from the
developers, I need to hear it from someone that I trust have the power
to make sure something really happens after the Touch release.

I've personally decided to stay around until the Touch has been
released and probably a few months after that, but unless something
changes I suspect I'll either stop participating in this community
and/or change to some other products or find some other more effective
way to make sure the existing Squeezebox products is able to do what I
need them to do.

I think we also have to realize that there is always going to be a new
product soon to be released, after the Touch Logitech is going to start
working on either next bug fix release or next new product. Believe me,
the history will continue unless the prioritization changes, first I
heard that getting the Radio out is top priority we will get more time
after that, then the same history was repeated for the Touch immediately
after the Radio release and I suspect there is going to be something
else after the Touch release that's more important than supporting third
party development. It's all about prioritization, something I suspect
are done by someone else than the developer resources from Logitech
available on this forum.


-- 
erland

Erland Isaksson
'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through
Extension Downloader)
(Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse,
Custom Scan,  Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database
Query plugins'
(http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer))
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