aubuti;508398 Wrote: 
> I'm way too tired right now to respond in full, but a few things may be
> helpful. "TinySC" (or more appropriately now, TinySBS) is a regular SBS
> that has web ui disabled via the way it is invoked on the Touch (simple
> command line options, I believe). TinySBS is not a separate branch.

gtk. 

aubuti;508398 Wrote: 
> As for the wiki, it's not up to date, like most wikis.

an explanation perhaps, but not an excuse.  its not some far flung
page, its right off the main site.  follow this:

http://www.logitechsqueezebox.com/

click support
click download squeezebox server
click beta and prerelease versions of sbs  (takes you to the wiki
page)

and there you are.  linked right from the main site, not hidden or hard
to find.  someone simply didn't add embedded to the wiki page.  its the
perfect place to do it and provide some explanation and context.

i simply followed the trail they put in place.  is this a failing on my
part?

aubuti;508398 Wrote: 
> Frankly, I've never gone for a nightly via the wiki.

ok, but obviously they laid this trail for people to follow.

aubuti;508398 Wrote: 
> However, the 7.5.0 embedded branch is quite apparent from what many
> (though I learn now, not all) consider the usual source for nightlies:
> http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/

its not linked to that dir on their main site or wiki page, and while
someone might think to edit the url to go directly to ../nightly/ i
don't see why anyone should expect someone to KNOW to do that.  i didn't
and i read the forums quite a bit.

my point is twofold: 

1. if they want people to know about it, link to it from the main site
in some way, like by updating the wiki for instance.
and
2. provide some context for just what embedded is beyond forum chatter,
and again the wiki is an appropriate place to do that.

aubuti;508398 Wrote: 
> Also, there's quite a bit of context in 'the thread in which andyg
> announced the embedded builds'
> (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71768), though you've
> obviously seen that, and admittedly it gets a bit esoteric.

its also haphazard and i'm just now reading it as opposed to when the
term first surfaced.

and btw, i'm not intending to complain about ANY of this but if you put
me into a defensive posture then i will explain myself by pointing out
why i thought this and that which may include some criticism of things,
but i wouldn't be doing it except you seem to think i should know what
you know.

i'm frequently impressed by what you know btw, but i doubt most people
know it, or should be expected to know it.

aubuti;508398 Wrote: 
> I don't know why it's called embedded. Like Michael said, it's just a
> name. Possibly it's called embedded because by using SQLite it is more
> capable of running (and running well) on smaller embedded systems such
> as NASs than the main (MySQL-based) branch is. But that's just
> speculation on my part.
> 
> I can understand you not wanting to venture into beta territory that is
> even more unknown than usual. But if you choose not to follow the devs'
> suggestion about which branch you should be testing, you shouldn't be
> surprised if the branch you're testing is a lower priority, because that
> effectively is what the devs are telling you. Cheers.

yeah, i agree.  but if the devs want help testing, they could throw the
dummies like me a bone and update the wiki as an example of a means by
which i can help me to help myself, and in turn them.  as you note,
there will be natural resistence to something even more "beta-ish" then
usual.

(but your sqlite scan results beating mysql tweaks certainly
intrigues!)


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