On Monday 19 September 2005 14:21, JulianL wrote:
> Please excuse the slightly provocative title for this thread. This is
> definitely not me having a pop at the implementers, I am just hoping to
> stimulate discussion or even better find that there is a feature already
> in the software to do what I want.
>
> Now that I have my real SB2 up and running and have some experience of
> real life use I am discovering something that isn't working as well as
> I'd hoped.
>
> The way I tagged my collection was to put the "traditional" artist's
> name in the Artist tag and then use Artistsort (I use FLAC) to get the
> right sort order, so for instance I have an album with Artist tag "Iggy
> and the Stooges" and Artistsort tag "Pop, Iggy".
>
> What I am finding with the above is that when I am browsing artists I
> am seeing the Artist tag and my brain needs to (and fails to!) jump
> around the artist name to get the correct order, i.e. as I browse
> through the list it doesn't feel to me like it is in alphabetic order
> because if a first name is in there (for instance) then it trips me up.
> I think I underestimated the extent to which I used the physical cue
> from the CD spines when I browsed my CDs in my CD racks. The end result
> of this is that I find browsing my artists on the SB2 (or the Telcanto
> client) is just nowhere near as easy as it was scanning my CD rack.
>
> One solution to the above would be to make all the Artist tags have
> "normalised" values, i.e. implement the consistent naming scheme I
> currently use for Artistsort (and hence be able to dispense with using
> the Artistsort tag). This would mean that my Artist tags would look
> consstent and genuinely alphabetic to my brain when I browse them. The
> problem with this is that when I am playing an album then I want the
> display name to say "Iggy and the Stooges" (for instance) and not "Pop,
> Iggy".
>
> So, finally what I have come to is that for me what I really want in
> the tags is not the ability to use Artistsort to override the Artist
> tag sort order but rather the ability to have a tag like
> ArtistDisplayName to override the Artist display name when a track is
> playing (but _not_ when browsing).

wouldn't it be much simpler to just add in an option that if a listing is 
using an XxxSort field then rather than showing Xxx, it would actually show 
the value of XxxSort?  That way the listing would make sense to you and you 
wouldn't need to rekey all you data?

Alex

> Does this mechanism already exist in some way? If not then would it be
> implementable and does anyone else agree with me that it would be a
> good feature to have? Does anyone have any other suggestion as to how
> to achieve what I want?
>
> - Julian
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