radish Wrote: 
> The fascia was plastic
Mine looks metal, feels like metal, but I don't want to scratch it to
check for sure. Next time I take it apart I'll check the back surface,
where I can't damage the visible portions.

> As an (offtopic) aside, I can't quite get how you'd DJ with either SBs
> or Audiotron - no pitch control, no cueing, not even decent FF/REW. I
> love my SB2s for home use, but there's no way I'd take them anywhere
> near a club. 
Ah, for this you have to be older than rap crap and have some idea what
"real" DJing is.

I belong to a (sadly vanishing) school of DJs who thinks we are artists
in selecting the right music for the current mood of the current crowd.
And that's all we do. We don't change what the artist did. We don't
cross-fade, we don't pitch blend, we let every song start the way the
artist intended it to start and end the way the artist intended it to
end (except for some "live recordings" (how's that for an oxymoron?),
where we'll remove the applause). 

We also don't fancy ourselves musicians so we don't loop, we don't
scratch, we don't talk over, with or against the music, etc. 

It helps that the music I DJ for mostly is swing era jazz and
post-swing era R&R & R&B. The dancers are all swing dancers. There are
also follow-on dance styles, done to '50s and '60s music, modern music,
even post-modern music, and yes, I've been forced to play some hip-hop,
provided it's danceable (most of it isn't - at least not to swing
dancers ears). 

I also occasionally DJ for ballroom dancers, and they too don't expect
their DJs to scratch either.

BTW, while I use them less and less these days, I have 2 DJ
double-heads which do pitch blends, cross-fading, looping, all that
jazz. The newer one can do motor breaks, freewheeling, several
different loops stored in memory at once, key correction for pitch,
yada, yada, yada. All so much bullshit. If I touch those controls once
a year it's a lot.

Except for the key correction, which is useful once in a while, IF I'm
DJing for a dance AND there's a teacher teaching before the dance AND
they didn't bring music of the appropriate speed to teach to AND so we
have to use some other music AND they want to slow it down, I can make
it sound natural. 

The rest I could happily throw away.

> There are much much better tools for
> that(http://www.serato.com/products/scratchlive/).
Perhaps. I don't know the product, although I'll probably spend some
time in the next while and check out the URL. But if it's major selling
point is "Make me a star" DJing, it's not something that interests me. I
should be the "man behind the curtain" of the music, and the music
should speak to the dancers directly. 

If it's good music, it doesn't need me to bend it, shape it. And, IMHO,
if it needs that much mangling, it isn't very good music.

All opinions my own, etc. No offense to people who scratch, and there
are some good ones who actually are musicians. It's just not my style.
If I wanted to play music, I'd pick up my violin and play from the raw
material, steel strings, horsehair, rosen. When I pick up CDs, I want
to hear what the artist recorded on the CD. If that makes me old
fashioned, so be it.


-- 
Michaelwagner
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