erland;636539 Wrote: > I'd argue that the reason the mass market doesn't buy it is because: > 1. They don't know it exists > 2. They think it's too expensive > 3. The applications it bundles is still too geeky for the mass market
well, they could install it freely on old hardware, so i think 1 and 3 are good reasons, but its a different question. you asked why the VB might be uninteresting. now you are asking why the mass market doesn't buy it. not truly the same thing, at least in so far as the way i was answering it. the context was me suggesting a SBS-like open source server, that would support airplay, slim, (and DLNA devices, etc). in that context, i was saying VB is not there yet, ie. not interesting to me. erland;636539 Wrote: > AirPlay support would certainly help but to get AirPlay you can just get > a $99 AppleTV and you have what you like, as I've understood you don't > even have to have it connected to iTunes if you only want to use > AirPlay. AppleTV is cheap even if you only use it as a wireless iPad -> > TV and iPad -> Amplifier connector. again, it becomes interesting, that was the Q. but would it be adopted by the mass market? that depends on how well the implementation was done imo. a lot of people would like to use the apple gear without the apple software though for local tunes (or vids) that aren't all on smallish pods/pads. software that was capable of running apple gear, slim gear, dlna gear, more or less equally well has a good chance of being widely adopted imo. imagine using an iphone or ipad or droid or computer or whatever to remote control the server, which in turn can play to just about any gear you've got. in other words, one ring to rule them all. lots of people have a mix of gear... even apple diehards have game consoles for instance. think of my suggestion as a universal translator. don't know if this is legal, but there is this: http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2011/04/12/apples-airplay-goes-open-source-sorta/ afaik, slim proto is open source, and DLNA is too, mostly, right? erland;636539 Wrote: > It has a common home page from which you can launch the different apps. no good. it has to be unified, and smart enough to know what protocol to use for what device, all under the hood. erland;636539 Wrote: > My experience is that community based open source projects with a few > exceptions rarely result in unified simple UI's. true, but it could take the SBS route... a company pairs it with its hardware and yet makes it available for other hardware. great way to get adopted. besides, i see this solution as being much less "visible" than the SBS one. more of a handheld remote operated type thing. erland;636539 Wrote: > And how would this developer be economically successful ? > By also producing and selling hardware ? it depends how it was developed. lots of community projects have different strategies. u see slim adding DLNA to their server now already. (i don't know if their DLNA includes a control point or not, but it should). maybe they add airplay too. maybe they have their hardware able to be controlled by other DLNA capable software. suddenly, they are the master of all possibilities, agnostics, and flexible. thats a selling point. and people would buy the hardware knowing that it will be "extra" capable, and knowing that the software will also handle their other non-slim hardware. my only beef with that scenario, is that i don't like SBS as is. i'd prefer making something cross platform like foobar into this jack of all trades. erland;636539 Wrote: > Honestly, I don't think you will get what you want through the open > source community, it's too scattered and geeky to accomplish something > unified that's also simple to use and ready for mass market usage. > VortexBox is how close it's going to get, it already today solves the > complicated ripping, tagging and installation stuff, but I suspect it > will never get much further than that. It will focus more on supporting > new communication protocols than building a unified UI. However, I think > AirPlay (audio) might be a possibility, because that's just about > supporting an additional communication protocol. I doubt it will ever > support licensed AirPlay through Apple, if supported it will probably > used the hacked solution through ShairPort. you're probably right, thats why for now i just want the slim hardware to be DLNA capable. if the revue is going to be, i don't see how/why they wouldn't add that ability to the next gen SB hardware. at least that way, i could buy the slim hardware, which is how they make money, and at the same time not have to use SBS, my dream, (and SBS is the big unfunded drain on resources) -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 & droid (my home) / duet & ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.5.5b - win7 & xp pro sp3 ie9 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 - 49k+ mp3/flac ::VOTE FOR 'BUG 15604' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15604)!!!:: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88215 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
