JJZolx;674775 Wrote: > Like you say, the debate has gone on forever, but why is it a > 'disservice' to say that if an album has an ALBUMARTIST that it's not a > compilation? > > The only thing that being a compilation really does is tells the server > to credit the album to the pseudo-albumartist 'Various Artists'. If you > want to override that, and override the logic that determines > compilation albums, then it's a means to doing so. Merely adding > COMPILATION=0 to such an album leaves you with one very large problem: > Who's album is it when there are multiple artists on the tracks?
Well, generally: 1. If an album is not a compilation I do have an ALBUM ARTIST 2. However, just because I have an ALBUM ARTIST doesn't mean it isn't a compilation. As the previous poster mentioned, if I have tribute albums, I want them to be posted under an ALBUM ARTIST that is grouped with the artist the album is a tribute to... In my own setup a tribute album to Bob Dylan has ALBUM ARTIST = Bob Dylan (Tribute).... I don't want them under Bob Dylan directly either. > > You can, but it should have little or no effect. If you want a > compilation album to be credited to some other particular artist then > what does _also_ saying that it's a compilation accomplish? Do you want > it to be grouped with 'Various Artists' despite being credited to > someone? I could see that, but I can't understand why anyone would want > it. Per my previous example. Just because it is a tribute album doesn't mean I don't want to find it under Various Artists. Afterall, tribute albums are compilations. Finding it as a compilation also gives those who don't want the track artists cluttering up their collection the option to keep that from happening. You may not want it, I don't really care since I use Custom Browse, but some people don't. > > There is no TRACKARTIST tag. Are you saying that the server should > evaluate the artist list from every track on an album, and that if it > sees a common artist on all tracks, then the album should be considered > a non-compilation credited to that common artist? A) That's a fairly > tall order that I expect would slow down scanning substantially. B) I > doubt that there's any software out there that does this. C) What > happens when an album has, say, one track by a guest artist on which > the main artist doesn't appear? Then it gets marked as a compilation > anyway. I understand there is no Track Artist tag but there appears to be a track artist entry in the DB and it is the only way to talk about the actual ARTIST tag without the ambiguity that goes with the server grouping ALBUMARTIST (and the variations of the tag; BAND, ALBUM ARTIST, etc). A) As for identifying the song artists, why should it not be able to do that? It is already doing that by identifying compilations based on the artists NOT being the same on an album. It shouldn't slow down scanning substantially, and even if it slows it down is it going to render the software useless? I don't scan that often. Doubling the scanning time wouldn't kill the usability of the server/device. B) Why should I care if no software does it? There's a thing called innovation. Heck, if it wasn't for innovation, we wouldn't have our Squeezeboxes at all. C)I wasn't being absolute... I was throwing out an idea. The logic could easily dismiss an album being a compilation if an artist was present on 90% of the tracks or 80% of the tracks. I don't know what the answer would be. Ultimately, a user would still have the option of over-riding the settings to their liking. As it is, in my own system, I had to set the ALBUMARTIST tags to VARIOUS ARTISTS for all my compilations because my previous software(s) didn't have the sophistication to know what a compilation was or a COMPILATION tag, and in fact I didn't know what a COMPILATION tag was until I had to troubleshoot my own problems with the Squeezebox software and Various Artists tags (thanks to people like yourself and others on this forum). I can respect your points of view, and if I had started my tagging efforts with this software and this system only, I'd probably have adopted them. But I haven't, and I am not going to change it to fit something that really doesn't have one right answer anyway. The ambiguity we have has made for a fuzzy situation, but it is what allows us to do what we want with our music and tags. -- emalvick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ emalvick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35382 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92049 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
