tigersim wrote: 
> 
> This to me suggests there is a good possibility to sustain this
> ecosystem just in the same way that other open source projects live on. 
> Maybe in time there's even a possibility to come up with basic 'thin'
> players (think SB Receiver) based on a Raspberry Pi or whatever.
> 
> So I suppose my question is, what are the legal and technical barriers,
> if any, of forking the LMS development and moving away from reliance on
> Logitech?  A new forum too, aimed at The New World (Free/Community, not
> UE).  Possibly some kind of hum for open source developers? I don't
> know, it would just seem wise to me to start considering contingencies
> before we wake up one day and find the lights have gone out.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
Those of us that can do it has already thought about doing it several
times during the last years with decreased Logitech development
resources, but we have all realized that even if Logitech only puts one
or two full time developers into maintaining it, that's still better
than having 2-3 spare time developers which already is fully occupied
with supporting their third party plugins/applets/apps on their spare
time today. At least as long as Logitech doesn't spend their time to
intentionally making it harder to extend their platform or remove
features we want to remain.

I'm not saying it won't happen, because I do believe something will
happen eventually, I'm just saying that it's not urgent as long as
Logitech still spends some resources to keep the system working.

I'm not saying that this is the case for you, but sometimes it's kind of
funny that people who haven't showed that they are prepared to spend
their own spare time to make other people happy without any economical
compensation ask other people to do it for themselves. 

Generally I don't think you or anybody else should ask other people to
create an open source project and offer it for free to the world unless
you have tried to do it yourself, without the experience you really
don't know what you are asking people to do and what kind of effort it
requires. It's one thing to offer a new geeky/interesting feature/add-on
for free, it's a completely different thing to spend your spare time to
support/maintain basic features year after year which people just expect
to work.

My personal feeling is that for long time survival, we really need
something with a business perspective to back up an effort as the one
you suggest, as a spare time open source project available for free with
no new non geek player hardware it's going to die over time. 

The future will tell who will fill the hole Logitech has left, might be
someone familiar or might be someone new, but based on what I've seen
during last 1-2 years I don't expect Logitech to do it themselves.
Independent who will do it, it wouldn't surprise me if the new journey
in some way starts here in this community, so sticking around in the
community and keep using Squeezeboxes might be a good idea even if you
don't believe Logitech is focusing on the right things at the moment.

To anyone that really want to fork LMS today and have the development
skills to do it, first make an interesting third party plugin and try to
maintain/support it for at least 3-6 months, so you at least know what
your are doing before starting to fork LMS (which is a lot bigger
effort).


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