garym wrote: 
> Sonos and LMS/Squeezeboxes both have rock solid sync.  I sync several
> players together (and they are sometimes in the same room). I've never
> heard any echo or sync problems in my use of SBs.  If you're having Sync
> issues, I suspect that is fixable as it must be something in your local
> setup????

afraid in my world (which only consists of RPI2s and hifiberry DACs) -
there are several issues with sync;
- Adding a player to a sync group while a track is playing results in a
stutter on all players.
- sync via wifi on an RPI2 is too unstable which forces wired
connection.
- sync is via skips where as on sonos sync is via adjusting the audio
clock rate so players get in pefect sync quickly without noticable sync
jumps.
- no native Spotify integration (via say Spotify connect) which forces
the use of Triode's plugin - which means the Spotify view of the world
is through an LMS app - which is feature poor compared to the native
android Spotfy client for example. For example Spotify moods can only be
played on LMS architecture by subscribing to a playlist rather and then
selecting the playlist form the LMS app.
- no native support for multiple Spotify accounts (eg family
subscriptions) - which means there has to be multiple LMS servers with
clients connected to specific servers.

All of these types of things to me means that LMS needs an overhaul.

Even though I accept that real squeezebox hardware maybe better, the
fact it is no longer made (or ever likely to be), means its future is
entirely dependent on these types of issues being addressed - which is
kind of hard on any open hardware - particularly open hardware solutions
like the rpi+dac without any commercial drive.

I just can't see how any streaming service which is heavily tied into
DRM can be viable longterm on an open platform like the RPI as it is
entirely dependent on the official API support from the service
providers.
Even now we can't even get Netflix on an RPI (without hacks like Playon)
as there is no official android port for the RPI - which would require a
locked bootloader anyway which isn't going to happen on the rpi.

I love the suqeezebox eco-system but it still needs work and without
official tie ins from the likes of Spotify/Tidal/Apple/Youtube etc, its
use cases will be limited and users will continue to switch to other
solutions (which to be fair isn't going to be a commercial concern for
Logitech anyway as they have other speaker products which are much
easier to support and pushes the sync/streaming responsibility to other
technology devices).


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