Goodsounds wrote: 
> No but I think maybe I wasn't clear enough in an effort to be brief. I
> thought maybe someone had tried it or, failing that, with the right
> equipment could spend a few minutes moving stuff around to try it out
> and share the experience. 
> 
> At best, much of what's on the used market is 10 years old. Much of it
> can be older. I know my own SB equip is starting to show its age, it's a
> wonder it's all lasted as long as it has. 
> 
> I was trying to balance the purchase price risk vs functionality for my
> buddy. If a Radio works reasonably satisfactorily, it's likely to be a
> newer product and $100 less money on the table to buy something from a
> stranger. If people have found the sound not acceptable, then the choice
> is $35 for reasonable but incomplete functionality (Chromecast audio) or
> $150 to buy full functionality but something that might conk out in 6
> months. 
> 
> I was looking for some direction and experience but failing that, I'll
> just let him decide. His money, his consequence. Thanks

OK. I understand your request now. If it was only sorta complicated, I'd
be happy to test output from RADIO headphone jack vs output of TOUCH,
both feeding same amp/speakers.  Unfortunately, it would be quite a
chore.  My Touch is connected to my DAC/Preamp/Amp via a S/PDIF coaxial
cable.  So it is not a matter of simply pluging that cable into the
RADIO. I'd need a different cable for the RADIO (and the TOUCH RCA outs
instead of S/PDIF), a cable I don't currently own by the way (dual RCA
on one end and headphone miniplug on the other). And to insert this
different cable I'd have to have a friend come over to help me move a
giant piece of furniture away from the wall that holds all my AV
equipment inside (with a 65" TV on top of it).   Then I'd need to use
that different cable to connect radio vs Touch to A/B them. And
accessing DACs, preamps, etc. inside this AV cabinet is not that easy.

Anyhow, we're talking 3 to 4 hours on a Saturday to get things moved
out, tested, moved back in, etc.  You get the idea.  

But the next best thing is I did a search of this forum going back to
when the Radios were first released.   There were a few threads that
addressed using the headphone out of the radio to feed a preamp or
powered speakers instead of the TOUCH.  The general consensus seemed to
be that, although not perfect because the radio output not line-level
and a bit noiser, it generally worked just fine for modest listening
(although not as good as a TOUCH, which is made for this purpose). The
major complaint is that the volume was way lower out of the radio
headphone jack as compared with TOUCH line-level outputs (RCA analog
outputs).

If not for the need for free Pandora, the answer (for me if recommending
to a friend) would be very simple. I'd do one of two things. 

1. connect a chromecast audio connector to a set of powered speakers and
control with smart phone (all playing my own music or internet radio
streams from LMS with the appropriate plugin from phillipe to make LMS
work with chromecast).

2. Purchase a Rasberry Pi 3B+ with HifiBerry DAC+ hat, install
PiCorePlayer (which will then be using squeezelite as the LMS player),
and connect the analog outputs of the Rasberry Pi to the powered
speakers.   This is cheap, but not as cheap as the chromecast audio. 
But it is current technology.



*Home:* VBA 4TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio
(ethernet)
*Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch> Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio
w/Battery (Radio WIFI)
*Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9.1>Squeezelite
*The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry
Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) 
*Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or
SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop
*Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes;
Streaming: Spotify
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