Bill, yes, it looks as though we will soon be sorted, all we need is agreement for someone to code it for us! Pressing on with the remaining issues:
Listener Wrote: > Bill> If the user checks for browsing on Composer or conductor, > > should that contributor still be added to the artist > > tag values for an artist browse? > ... > I agree that it would be simple and clean to drop the merge capability. > I asked because it hadn't been settled. Can we then agree on the simple solution? i.e. we suggest that the merge capability be dropped? > > > If you are narrowing down your selection I think it is critical to > show the reduced data set as you go... > If you want to tack a list of matching albums on after the browse > choices, OK. This is exactly what I was thinking of. Have the "And Browse..." items at the top of the list, so you come to them first. Have the currently matching Albums (or tracks) below, so you can scroll into them if you wish. Top line of the display gives a clue as to how many there are, eg: "Browsing Beethoven / Karajan (57)" > > It is fairly common for the tags to be different for tracks on one > classical CD. I recommended a Sony CD recently with an excellent > performance of Beethoven's 4th symphony by Bruno Walter and an > excellent performance of Beethoven's 8th symphony by George Szell. And > it is common for a CD to have a concerto and a sonata. Same soloist > but no conductor and orchestra for the sonata. Sometimes a CD has a > symphony and a concerto. Sometimes a Cd has several symphonies or > concerti with different composers, conductors, soloists and > orchestras. > > You might be careful to creat a different album name for each work but > not everyone knows to do that or will make the effort. It isn't a safe > assumption for SS to make. I'm going to disagree here... I think we have to state the asusmption that the music has been tagged correctly, which I take to mean with one Album per Piece (NOT CD). So the examples you've given would all be different Albums in my book. Apart from anything else, ALL other computer music players work on an assumption that the basic collection of tracks is an Album, so if you want to play this music on any other player, you are going to want it tagged this way. I for one really don't want differently tagged music for different players (and I really do use several). > > Outside classical music, there are lots of Songbook CDs where the > greatest hits of a composer like Gershwin, Porter or Berlin (or someone > who is not yet dead) are song by various artists. You would want to > keep the same album name for all tracks because you want to be able to > find and play all the songs from the album. Maybe you could use the > composer, but the name of the songbook is the natural way to do it. Here I'll agree, this is similar to the example I gave. This should be tagged with Album = "Gershwin Songbook xx", track titles = song names, and "Performer" = singer for each track. The only dilemma here is how you use "Artist": the Vorbis standard implies this is meant to be a summary of the other information for players with limited display capbilities, ie you're supposed to choose the "most important" summary. In this example I'd probably go for "Gershwin" rather than the song singer, but I suspect this can remain a personal choice and doesn't need to be enforced in a standard. > > SS does rely on the album name as a way to group tracks and collect > properties. And you have gone farther in building a conceptual model. > I think that extending the browse facilities in SS will go better if you > don't organize browsing around your concept of an album. If you browse > tags in a uniform way for all (browsable) tags, you get a better > interface and one that handles things like tag values that are not the > same for every track in an album. And it can better handle tracks with > multiple values for a tag such as Artist. > Careful. "Artist", in the Vorbis standard, should only appear once. You can have multiple Performers, though. And, as per my note above, all tags are not equal. "Album" and "Artist" have special meaning for most players, and to retain any kind of compatibility we have to respect that. Regards Ceejay -- ceejay ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18767 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
